Craton
Double Eagle Member
Sheesh. That is insane. I bet a 150g would still have more stability than two 175g Vulcans glued together with a melted Nuke.
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[Innova] Are you going APE?
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scarwig
Eagle Member
I will have fun when I am damn good and ready.
curveball4
* Ace Member *
Schusterick had a proto at doubles last week & it is a beast. It was pretty darn overstable for the guys with big arms & Will said the production run may be beefier. On a side note, he also had a couple C-PD with his sig on them, I think they ran 50 or so. Pretty sweet
The Ape is going to have a wider rim and a blunter nose which means it will have less glide and probably be faster out of the hand (though slowing down faster due to blunt nose).
I expect that the PD will be a more useful disc all around.
and the xcaliber is 12/5/0/4, looks like Discmania is filling in the holes that Innova has not. Although I am really intrigued by the C-PD2, if anyone has one to let me throw PM, we can work something out. I already throw Xcals and I have an Ape on the way for testing purposes. I would like the throw the C-PD2 at the same time and see how different all 3 really are
has anyone mentioned they have pre-release cfr's on DGV?
xJFK
Double Eagle Member
and on ebay
Mr. Elixir
Newbie
This is one noob who won't be going APE!
But I think all this new super fast stuff sells also because it's all they seem to be distributing to these sporting good stores. I'm rather new to this game and after first being introduced this past summer/fall I finally invested in my own discs over the winter... and the only local retailer I could find with any discs was a Dick's. Fortunately, I was lucky enough to find one eagle and some mid-ranges among all the Grooves and Wraiths. I atleast had a little bit of a clue of what I was looking for since I was able to test out a variety of discs that I had borrowed during my first few months of playing and I found a few that I felt comfortable with... the eagle being one of them. But when I got to Dick's, the selection was very limited compared to the variety of discs that are actually being manufactured. Being on a budget and wanting to find bright colored discs to avoid losing them, I basically ended up gauging my selections on price, color and weight more than anything else. But I still managed to create my own "starter set" which now consists of a Wraith, Roadrunner, Eagle, Shark, Mako, Wolf, and Aviar P&A. I actually couldn't be happier with my selections and have come to like all these discs, although I'd still like to test out some other putters having only ever throw one type. But I am getting alot of consistency from all three drivers and could now throw them all with confidence. The wraith is my lightest (at 166g) and by far my longest disc, but I probably would never have purchased it had my choices not been so limited. I did not want to walk out of the store without having new discs to try out over the weekend so I took the plunge.
I can't blame any company for trying to be innovative and keep creating new products, whether they are necessary or not. It's just what they do, although it does drive me nuts at times. Maybe it's just because the retailers are only ordering the new "hot" items or maybe it's because the manufactuer is using an aggressive marketing scheme, but it definitely limits a newbie's choice when half of the discs in stock are premium plastic grooves and wraiths, and the majority of the remaining half are all Aviar P&A's (the only putter that I've seen available.) I realize there are many alternate online options for purchasing discs and I may have been a little impatient, but here I was, a noob not even wanting high speed plastic with nothing but high speed stuff to choose from. With such an overwhelming variety of discs out there and for someone not really being familiar with all the flight ratings (or the actual flight patterns of the discs) it is not difficult to get sucked into the Groove when it's all that is available.
With that being said, I did have the opportunity to throw a Groove that belongs to a friend and I just couldn't get a feel for it and I couldn't be happier that I stayed away from it. Don't know if it's the wide rims, my inexperience, form, throwing style or what, but I probably won't be driving speed 13 discs for a long time.
UnitedPuppySlayer
* Ace Member *
i think that will devalue their brand for sure.
Bacon Grease
Par Member
lapants
Birdie Member
don't base your concept of all 13 speeds on the groove, its usually considered to be a very inconsistent disc.
that being said, i am not encouraging you to throw high speeds if you don't want to, but every disc is different
bodomdethllica
Birdie Member
I just got mine today., and I have to say that it feels a lot like a boss in terms of feel in the hand. Visually though it looks an awful lot like an xcaliber.
surgeflx87
Banned
Don't know, havent thrown it yet. I shall see tomorrow. My guess is it will be about the same as my xcalibers
Don't bother buying this disc if you already own an xcaliber because this disc isn't any better than it. It actually felt more understable than the numbers for it.
gcr_russell
* Ace Member *
Glad to hear. When I first heard about the Ape I was excited. Then I discovered the PD2 for overstable heavy headwind duties and realized that short of a miracle there wouldnt be another disc anytime soon that could do what the PD2 is. After hearing from you I'm now less tempted to give the Ape a shot.
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