It's artificial turf, kinda similar to the plastic carpet you might put on a pool deck. I see them at European courses a lot, they sweep off nice in winter time in cold climate areas.
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DGPT: 2020 The Preserve Championship July 3-5
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It's artificial turf, kinda similar to the plastic carpet you might put on a pool deck. I see them at European courses a lot, they sweep off nice in winter time in cold climate areas.
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Imagine a giant Scotch-Brite scouring pad. I really like them.
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This course is more fun to watch than ECC.
Should be an interesting lead card tomorrow.
I thought the Big Juli commentary was alright and I'm looking forward to watching rounds 2 & 3.
Should be an interesting lead card tomorrow.
I thought the Big Juli commentary was alright and I'm looking forward to watching rounds 2 & 3.
brutalbrutus
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Calvin with a tap in eagle for -17
18, haha. That's a par 4.
After watching Jomez's first round videos, I'm just so disappointed about not being able to get out and watch this event this weekend. I live in the area and if it wasn't for covid-19 limiting spectators I would have been able to see some fun disc golf in person.
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I'm liking. Any idea on brand or price?
I hate this weather too, but living in the St Cloud Metro Area( I will give Clearwater as been a fringe part of it but they are part the the St Cloud School district so I count them as part of it) where most big events happen in Fargo or the Twin Cities Metro I really want this event to do well and be a yearly event. We rarely get big events of any kind around here because we are too close to the Twin Cities. I realize that without Covid-19 this event probably wouldn't be on the DGPT calender. I hope it makes a good enough impression that top Pro drawing events can continue to come to the area. But I am just slightly worried I might miss out on a great chance to see some great disc golf played by pros I've followed and enjoyed for many years without having to drive at least an hour each way.
It seems that the scores these 1st two rounds would indicate the exact opposite is happening. These 700' holes are by and large getting 3's and 4's. I think that 75% you mention have exactly the same opportunity to get 3's on a 700' hole. Anyone that can throw 400' has that chance.
But what if the hole was 600' or 625'? Now you have a certain percentage of the field that CAN reach the green in one, or at least circle 2. Maybe now you have more score separation. I don't care if you call that a par 3 or par 4. I am in the camp that thinks it is sad to not have a hole of a particular length or difficulty simply because setting what the par would be is less clear.
Maybe this is more of a 'par' discussion/issue than a scoring separation issue. But obviously, with 19 players at -20 or better, there appears to not be much scoring separation at present.
I do agree that it does set up for a potentially awesome final round, perhaps with several in contention going into the final holes. That is great for fans of course. I for one am quite excited to watch the final round live!
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I didn't realize this event was Honoring the memory of George Floyd, or raising money for the NAACP. Makes sense when you think about where they're playing.
If you're enjoying this event, why not click the link and make a donation?
If you're enjoying this event, why not click the link and make a donation?
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Paige R2 score of 56 was rated 1004.....a 56 in the MPO field was Rated 1011 and a 57 was Rated 1002
So if Paige would play in open from the MPO tees she would basically had to play the same score to get the same rating?
No way that Paige would play the same score from the MPO tees
So if Paige would play in open from the MPO tees she would basically had to play the same score to get the same rating?
No way that Paige would play the same score from the MPO tees
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Interesting. The way that course was set up for FPO and MPO:
Unless the conditions were very different, there's no way the round rating for a 56 from the MPO tees should be that close to the rating of a 56 from the FPO tees. All that additional distance has to account for more than 7 rating points.
Ratings. They give you an idea of the relative level ofhow good a course is performance ...but they ain't perfect. :\
Unless the conditions were very different, there's no way the round rating for a 56 from the MPO tees should be that close to the rating of a 56 from the FPO tees. All that additional distance has to account for more than 7 rating points.
Ratings. They give you an idea of the relative level of
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There's a 700 foot difference between the two layouts. I would predict a 2-2.5 stroke difference between the ratings scales.
R1:
FPO60 = 967
MPO60 = 984
Difference = 17 points, ~2.1 strokes
R2:
FPO60 = 969
MPO60 = 977
Difference = 8 points, 1 stroke
We'll see how it goes today, and how it looks after they get combined, but R2 was indeed a little closer than I would have thought. I would have thought the FPO would have been the more volatile of the two, but it was actually MPO that had a bigger difference between the two days.
R1:
FPO60 = 967
MPO60 = 984
Difference = 17 points, ~2.1 strokes
R2:
FPO60 = 969
MPO60 = 977
Difference = 8 points, 1 stroke
We'll see how it goes today, and how it looks after they get combined, but R2 was indeed a little closer than I would have thought. I would have thought the FPO would have been the more volatile of the two, but it was actually MPO that had a bigger difference between the two days.
Having played for about 5 straight days in the heat, a bit of a sore elbow and a hangover, all have me staying home watching this live coverage. Great strides in the quality of coverage.
Major takeaway.....they need to eliminate spectators. They are CLEARLY demonstrating they cannot social distance and behave safely.
Major takeaway.....they need to eliminate spectators. They are CLEARLY demonstrating they cannot social distance and behave safely.
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Having played for about 5 straight days in the heat, a bit of a sore elbow and a hangover, all have me staying home watching this live coverage. Great strides in the quality of coverage.
Major takeaway.....they need to eliminate spectators. They are CLEARLY demonstrating they cannot social distance and behave safely.
All these "sports" plans are pretty lecture-y/defensive about how they're doing various steps, but to allow "limited" spectators but not to care how they mingle about is irresponsible.
I was talking about more than just disc golf. St Cloud is a regional hub but most nationally touring concerts and other events skip this area because we are just close enough to the Twin Cities metro that they go there instead. Several music acts I've been interested in seeing will play both the Twin Cities and Fargo bypassing Cloudy Town. I've also experienced this with dog sports like nosework were most competitions are in the Twin Cities or Fargo so it's a drive to get there. Its just a little annoying in that we are big enough to get better events than we do but geographically we are just in the wrong spot.
As far as the weather, this prolonged hot, humid, with little wind weather in this area is a little out of the ordinary. Considering how open the course is I bet if there was a good breeze we won't be seeing as many of the really low scores we are getting.
