Buiscutboy
Double Eagle Member
Well, I have sticky fingers, so pretty much everything grips fine for me 
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[Compare] Favorites going OOP??
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True...
There is some very nice Elite Z though, like pearly Z Buzzz, etc. The more opaque Z is in between Z and ESP and has poorer grip than either. I was looking at some Hornets in this stuff at a shop the other day.
Well, I have sticky fingers, so pretty much everything grips fine for me
You also live in Georgia. For us northerners z is the worst snow plastic around. I mean I don't throw any champ style in the snow, but z is the worst. I'm fortunate enough to have a number of ti wasps and a couple esp still.
Buiscutboy
Double Eagle Member
I have played in the snow before. It wasn't alot of snow, and it wasn't two degrees out, but the discs got wet, cold, and covered in snow. It wasn't very good grip, but compared to my other non-dx discs, it was about the same.
sumo21
Eagle Member
Not sure about favorites, but Innova has OOP the SL and currently the FL. My brother got me a Star FL for my birthday last year. I heard everything favorable about the Firebird, but didn't have the rocket arm to throw it so I decided to get the FL, which is not a big meat hook that the Firebird is but it had a bit more distance and easier to throw, in my opinion. When I go to Innova's website, not only was the SL slot gone but the FL slot as well. The L series seemed to be made for those who wanted the regular model, but not as stable and a bit farther.
sumo21
Eagle Member
On the TL3, I don't think that is going away any time soon. Innova had the Archangel, understable and Dragon, slightly understable to stable as their only speed 8 drivers. They retooled one of their moat popular drivers, TeeBird, and made the stable to overstable speed 8 drivers they were missing from their product line.
disctildeath
Eagle Member
Looking for a good Ontario Cobra replacement? Give a Mystic a try, get one of the Sure Grip ones, they come board flat and have been compared to old Pro Cobras, plastic feels KC stiff with Pro D grip. Feels like a cross between a shallow Mako and a beefy Stingray in the hand.
I could cycle DX Teebirds to to cover the TL3, but to be honest I've got an MVP Volt that flies about the same as my G* TL3 and I know the Volt better, so the TL doesn't get brought out as often as it could.
I'm not sure I see Innova ditching the Mako/3 molds. They don't seem to mind overlap, and the Vtech molds seem to concentrate on being "torque resistant". My Mako is very susceptible to OAT and doesn't like to be cranked hard on. For me it's a pure finesse point to point disc, but it's fairly unique in that aspect. If I had to lose it I could cover the shots I throw with it between Buzzz's and the Axiom Theory, but I'd miss my Mako.
The mold I can't duplicate is my upper 160's first run Volt. That sucker is magic for me, and the other volts I've bought have been great discs, but don't fly the same lines. I'm hoping Plasma plastic will result in Volts with a little less HSS. Otherwise I'm well and truly screwed when/if I lose my baby.
Yup. I agree, they need to bring back the First Run Volts.
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