Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
Casey you have posted something about the Vertex Angler Backpack in nearly every thread I have seen you post in.
Please stop. Let threads just be about their own topic.
Thanks.:clap:
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Casey you have posted something about the Vertex Angler Backpack in nearly every thread I have seen you post in.
Please stop. Let threads just be about their own topic.
That is not true. The ridge roller bag has a built in seat and is fantastic. Great build quality and functionality. It also can be bought with a matching pull cart if needed. I have owned the simian and the Ridge and it is a superior bag IMO.
No I would not agree at all. Sometimes it takes effort to maintain integrity- maybe even a shred of patience. Clearly Bagalane doesn't like to put in effort, but it's kinda sad when others make excuses for their prolific ripoff scum-of-the-earth thievery, especially in such a small sport.
Funny how good you can make a bag when someone else creates a paint-by-numbers and you spend $0 developing any of it. Lol
I thought the company stopped making that bag? It was not available for a long period.
That has 2 advantages to the Simian, and that is you are not limited as much with discs in the main storage and the fact it can be made into a cart. The main limitation seem to me to be the way the storage is set up on the second slot, the opening is limited to a degree.
Not the only knock off Disc Golf bag, a USA company Infinite Discs took the Upper Parks small bag, the one that looks like a running hydration pack and added a single bottle holder to the bag to make it better. However Infinite Disc now has discs made by Innova that are nearly the same as old molds that Innova and or Innova side brands used to make so I am confused on whether or not to support the company. Now Infinite Discs has made an improvement to its knock off unlike what Bagalane did was a direct copy of the Simian.
but if they are unable to meet the demands, why would anyone expect customers to wait for the business to get their act together? .
I have posts in other threads. I have reviews of courses on here since 2012. I just have never been that active on here because some of y'all twist off too easy like now. You sir should get your facts straight before you rant and rave about someone you don't know. Parking lot of life indeed. I bet you stumble through that lot quite a bit. Why so hatefull?? You're triggered aren't you? Sorry I had an opinion different from your own. Like I said maybe you're right Do Work. Maybe you're right. Dang it I said I would ignore haters.
So much microwave society right here. Not very long ago, waiting for custom items was expected. Now, if amazon prime can't get it to you in 24 hours, the world is ending :doh:
Is my dollar not going to help a person, family, or business? Or is it just because they are in another country? I don't know the owner of GB, so why would I care more about him than some other person I have never met? Is it just because he's American? If that's the case, there are lots of American companies I choose not to support for a multitude of reasons. What makes this special?
You had a great idea; design something, make prototypes yourself, invest your hard earned money, time, and sweat into building a business. You launch full production and release a quality product that has more demand than you can supply.
I see your product's success, buy one, ship it to another manufacturer, and have them recreate it exactly so I can then sell your product under my label. I profit on the back of your hardwork and initial investment.
I lower my prices to continue to steal your potential customers that want your product but before you can ship it to them. Your profits sink, mine soar. My initial investment is paid off much quicker than yours.
I reinvest my new profits into more ads and product placement. More and more customers see and buy your product from me because my price is lower and I have reviews saying it's the same product at a lower cost.
You aren't making a profit anymore. You close up shop. The people you employed are laid off. Their families and yours has lost an income stream they counted on.
A year goes by, I'm still making profit on your product. With you out of the picture, I have no competition, I raise my prices to be higher than your original price. I cut back on quality at the factory to cut costs even more and maximize my profits.
Why should YOU care? Because you are just like everyone else. Anything that happens to them can happen to you. If you support the exploitation of another human being than your saying it's okay. Will you still think it's okay when it happens to you?
^^^This is the type of well-educated conversation we need on these forums!
Thank you. I did not mean my comments as a personal attack and I'm glad you saw that.
I wrote a lengthy additional reply (as I often do) and deleted it because I could rant for a page at least about the economic situation we are confronted with daily.
I think the great thing about these forums is that as disc golfers were apart of a close knit community (if we want to be). We don't have to approach the world on an island and can come here and share our experiences with each other. As a member of the community I think that gives us a responsibility to look out for each other.
I wish the owner of GB had the ability to legally pursue the maker of this knock off. But since that's another issue altogether (and another rant), we just have to make sure that we inform those who will listen of the reasons why they should not buy this bag but support GB instead.
If we as disc golf community want to be seen as seriously as the golfing community, we need companies to be more...
More focused on protecting their investment. Patenting their products, taking action when need be, and realizing that the disc golf community isn't the small group of folks it was 10 years ago. We need them to develop with the times.
I'm the mean time I'm enjoying my purchase and the lack of ethics some of you perceive in my purchase is quite comical to me.
The reason I worded the poll the way I did is because of the nature of negative replies to this thread. Everyone so triggered because I exercised freewill and decided not to be bothered with an apathetic retailer. I thought it would go like this because that's what any discussion of this bag had been before that o could see. No one could ever discuss just the bag. Only the so called right or wrong of it. Whatever.
I also said I would ignore haters and I really haven't. It's just been too fun to flame the fire. You guys are so convinced you are all right. Maybe you are. Believe me I feel you I think I'm right too! Maybe I am. Maybe you are.
So I did an awful thing and bought the Fusion bag. I know haters will hate. But like I said I needed a bag now not when Gorilla Boy could get around to taking my money.
Now I have never seen a Gorilla Boy bag (and I'm really wondering if anyone else will either)but the Fusion does appear to be identical to what I saw on the GB website.
Too sum up this bag rocks and if GB doesn't get their business together everyone will be saying Gorilla who? Sooner than later.
Yeah if you read earlier in the post I was willing to wait but the answer I got was no bag now don't know when bag will be available with no sense of urgency whatsoever. Not being willing to wait had nothing to do with it. I would have much rather given GB my business. I did say that I needed the bag now not when he could get around to it, but if you are waiting forever....
As stated in this case it would have been okay. The GB owner unwittingly drove me away with his IDGAF attitude. That had nothing to to do with impatience expect for impatience for BS for which I do not and will not apologize.
My question is...why are people up in arms over a GB knockoff?
Fade knocked off the Innova bag.
DD/Lat64/Voodoo/UP/Fossa/Others all knocked off a version of Grip.
Is the concern for knockoffs/ concerns for bags being made overseas/ or concerns that a small company hasn't been able to stay competitive?
If the bag works, the customer is happy, and the business made a profit; isn't that the business' ultimate goal? If the bag works, but customers can't get them, and business is not making a profit; maybe the business needs to be re-examined.
I want to support American jobs and American products, but if they are unable to meet the demands, why would anyone expect customers to wait for the business to get their act together? We are not talking about a limited number of Ferrari's, where the value will go up, we are talking about disc golf bags, where the value will only go down.