bthoma1
Eagle Member
it on a hyzer line..yes I am sure I have mazed it out. I might be able to get a little better form and maybe get 30-40 ft more out of it. But as far as hyzer I have maxed it out.
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hyzer to straight to hyzer shot
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it on a hyzer line..yes I am sure I have mazed it out. I might be able to get a little better form and maybe get 30-40 ft more out of it. But as far as hyzer I have maxed it out.
Chucktown
Eagle Member
Yeah, happens when you release with a little bit of hyzer but you put so much flick on it it turns over. I do that with my Pro Boss. You should try one of those, like a 170ish. The Pro Bosses are really easy to throw.
I disagree, a hyzer flip is superior to a flex. They both give you nice long s curves but with flex, the disc is already starting at the turning point. Hyzer flip: hyzer, flat, turn, fade. With flex you only get turn and fade. More parts of a full s curve=more distance.
Lewis
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My very few longest throws in an open field have come from hyzer-flipping my Star Valkyrie from a deep hyzer release to just past flat, on a nice low line. I can't do it every time, but when I do it just exactly right, it gets out over 400', and my maximum distance with my Wraith is about the same as yours, bthoma1. Though you might find you can caress more distance out of your Wraith if you play with your release angle a little more. It never ceases to amaze me what subtle differences in pitch and roll can do to the flight of a disc.
Get a new Wraith.
I do this with my old Elite X Buzzz. For longer drives I prefer a beat up Z Avenger or beat up Z XL.
And for the wooded courses near me I find myself using a good mix of flex shots and hyzer flips. You need it all.
And for the wooded courses near me I find myself using a good mix of flex shots and hyzer flips. You need it all.
That's a hyzer-flip shot. The hyzer you're talking about at the end -- the hyzer, then flat, then HYZER -- is just the disc slowing down and fading.
Shot is pulled off by throwing a disc hyzer and it flattens out instead of the disc being thrown flat and turning right (for you bhrh). Very easily done with a wraith and the more understable the disc is that you're trying to do it with, the easier the "hyzer then flat" flight you'll get.
Great technique for tunnel shots with really understable stuff like roadrunners or sidewinders.
...but yeah, the hyzer you're seeing at the end is just the disc slowing down and fading, like all do.
Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.
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lol. i'm not sure why you are asking for help than
bthoma1
Eagle Member
I guess I really don't know. Just looking to understand new shots I guess. I don't really need them though cause I can just keep throwing my wraith hyzer and still just just as well.. either way thanks guys
I don't think the big guns would actually throw a Wraith for a pure hyzer shot because it will flip up too much and straighten out so if that's what's happening, then yes, I think you've maxed out the Wraith (as long as the disc is not beat) for hyzer shots and should move to something faster like a Destroyer or Boss. Otherwise, I think there's still some potential distance for the Wraith on the hyzer line. At the distance most people throw, a Wraith works great for hyzer shots as long as it's not beat-in and not Pro or DX. Even though a new Wraith would work for me on a hyzer line when thrown properly, I prefer the added security and longevity of a Destroyer, which i know for certain will not turn over on a hyzer line even when a little beat-in.
Blasphemy!
Tiger Aqua
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Valarie Jenkins throw hyzer flip in European Open.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGPtNfmJ1TA#t=2m57s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGPtNfmJ1TA#t=2m57s
garublador
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It's easy if you pick a disc that you can throw with enough nose down and speed to get it to flip up naturally. Generally, slower, more beat and more understable discs are easier to flip than faster more overstable ones.
If you're throwing clean (no OAT) then the difference between a hyzer flip and a pure hyzer is disc selection. It's not really a technique, it's a flight path. There are several techniques you can use (and you should learn them all) to get that type of path.
what is OAT?
garublador
* Ace Member *
Off axis torque. Here's a thread about it:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=846&
Thanks for the link. And the great post #2.
My slightly beat Star Valk does this well, though if I am not careful, then it stays right and doesn't come back. So a definate hyzer angle on it is required.
