YoYoNinjaBoy
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ohboyohboyohboy. I have to share with someone.
So that is what the throw is supposed to feel like. It's distinctly different. Feels weightless until suddenly I'm smashing a literal (metaphorical) hammer.
Shout outs to ace it disc golf for a more approachable backhand instruction; SW22 for the drills; hyzerunibomber for connecting hammer drill to the feel of the heavy disc without I'm not sure if I would have recognized; Jaani for the feel of the brace; and everyone else sharing words of wisdom and facilitating discussion.
It really feels like I have a clear path to progression now. The grind was worth it. It took about a year of near daily experimentation to retrain my body to not pull. I probably could have gotten here faster if I wasn't so **** stubborn and ruined every session by going ok now lets try to throw far.
Why I think it was so difficult:
I wanted to be in control. It's my body. I control it. I control it to throw the frisbee far. This is not the way. I had to train my body and then let jesus take the wheel.
I had many competing ideas about aspects of the throw. For example I bounced back and forth between the idea of "there's a trick to this and it's a big one" and "there's no big trick just a ton of little tiny tricks to gain incremental distance" Turns out they're both right. The little tricks given enough time and attention turn into the big trick. What does the arm do? Nothing? A little? A lot? Box unbox; noodle arm; Depending on your perspective it's all of them. Things like this made learning feel like a black box I was on the outside of and nothing makes sense until you feel it and suddenly everything does. I think that feeling was accurate.
Instant gratification: Increase in effort always resulted in a relatively linear increase in force. This encouraged me to be strong and throw hard and early This is how I threw on the course. I worked my way up to what felt like my absolute ceiling of 350' by sprinting up and smashing understable high speed drivers as a 5'7 165 skinnyfat but mildly athletic 28 year old. It was surprisingly accurate but completely unsustainable long term and completely detrimental to the rebuild I was trying to facilitate long term.
My big mind****s:
Gripping the disc creates tension and tension started the pull. I had to train myself to never grip the disc to not fire early. I DON'T GRIP THE DISC MY BODY DOES as a reaction. Pointer finger over thumb grip kind of bypasses this but is far too weak for a good rip in my experience.
Do as little as possible. Now do less. Pendulums are not propelled by mechanical force they are propelled by gravity and inertia.
If you're trying to get in a position you're not in position.
Related:Swing thoughts can only train the swing thought not the swing. Swing thought is practice and the swing is performance. Relating this to music and playing guitar, if you're in a performance and suddenly you think about what your hands are doing you done ****ed up bucko you're probably going to make a mistake. I play rocket league at a high level do you ever think about what your hands are doing playing video games? If you do you're probably not very good at them.
Thank you all so very much.
Learning disc golf is a trip and staying loose is therapy.
Stay classy San Diego.
So that is what the throw is supposed to feel like. It's distinctly different. Feels weightless until suddenly I'm smashing a literal (metaphorical) hammer.
Shout outs to ace it disc golf for a more approachable backhand instruction; SW22 for the drills; hyzerunibomber for connecting hammer drill to the feel of the heavy disc without I'm not sure if I would have recognized; Jaani for the feel of the brace; and everyone else sharing words of wisdom and facilitating discussion.
It really feels like I have a clear path to progression now. The grind was worth it. It took about a year of near daily experimentation to retrain my body to not pull. I probably could have gotten here faster if I wasn't so **** stubborn and ruined every session by going ok now lets try to throw far.
Why I think it was so difficult:
I wanted to be in control. It's my body. I control it. I control it to throw the frisbee far. This is not the way. I had to train my body and then let jesus take the wheel.
I had many competing ideas about aspects of the throw. For example I bounced back and forth between the idea of "there's a trick to this and it's a big one" and "there's no big trick just a ton of little tiny tricks to gain incremental distance" Turns out they're both right. The little tricks given enough time and attention turn into the big trick. What does the arm do? Nothing? A little? A lot? Box unbox; noodle arm; Depending on your perspective it's all of them. Things like this made learning feel like a black box I was on the outside of and nothing makes sense until you feel it and suddenly everything does. I think that feeling was accurate.
Instant gratification: Increase in effort always resulted in a relatively linear increase in force. This encouraged me to be strong and throw hard and early This is how I threw on the course. I worked my way up to what felt like my absolute ceiling of 350' by sprinting up and smashing understable high speed drivers as a 5'7 165 skinnyfat but mildly athletic 28 year old. It was surprisingly accurate but completely unsustainable long term and completely detrimental to the rebuild I was trying to facilitate long term.
My big mind****s:
Gripping the disc creates tension and tension started the pull. I had to train myself to never grip the disc to not fire early. I DON'T GRIP THE DISC MY BODY DOES as a reaction. Pointer finger over thumb grip kind of bypasses this but is far too weak for a good rip in my experience.
Do as little as possible. Now do less. Pendulums are not propelled by mechanical force they are propelled by gravity and inertia.
If you're trying to get in a position you're not in position.
Related:Swing thoughts can only train the swing thought not the swing. Swing thought is practice and the swing is performance. Relating this to music and playing guitar, if you're in a performance and suddenly you think about what your hands are doing you done ****ed up bucko you're probably going to make a mistake. I play rocket league at a high level do you ever think about what your hands are doing playing video games? If you do you're probably not very good at them.
Thank you all so very much.
Learning disc golf is a trip and staying loose is therapy.
Stay classy San Diego.
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