Lost my first disc ever, Champion Beast right in the middle of a pond that usually dries up every year during the summer, usually in July. I beat that disc in so well that it flew exactly how I wanted it, and is really the only disc that I have ever had success throwing forehand with. Well, we had a big rainstorm that sent down what seemed like half the trees in the area, and what do you know, the pond is 5 times the size it was the week before. It looked too big to be a pond and usually I had no problem playing it safe by just driving to the left of the drink. But the one time the pond was too deep to retrieve anything, I throw my best disc in the dead center of it. Never got it back, but talked to a kid a few weeks back, said he came with 2 friends to the pond during that time period last year and found 27 discs total while swimming around, in one day. 9 a piece, said he sold them all.