I was just throwing my mini Buzzz at the course the other day, haha played an entire round like that. If I hit chains and it falls through the basket I consider that a hole out. This thing flies remarkably well and very much like a Buzzz should with a little more turn and fade though. After a couple holes of flipping it then n00b hyzering it I found a happy straight medium with some fade at the end of its flight. Putting is another story.... I was having a blast by myself in 25 degree temps throwing a mini. Yes I'm strange haha.