zj1002
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Smaller Orc maybe. Thats the closet to any other disc
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For those in the Austin Texas area
Disc Nation has 2 Neutron Shocks available for testing on our driving range. We do not have any for sale until Feb 1st but we encourage you to come fly them before anyone can buy them
Man!! I wish I lived in Austin. I always tell myself if I have ever get an opportunity to move to Texas.. Austin would be the place.
Can't wait to see Mike C's vid!!
For those in the Austin Texas area
Disc Nation has 2 Neutron Shocks available for testing on our driving range. We do not have any for sale until Feb 1st but we encourage you to come fly them before anyone can buy them
As in compare to each other? or other mvp drivers?
I have already covered how they fly compared to other drivers. Now compared to each other, the red 171g is a tad more low speed stable and the 173g yellow-green will hold forward a bit longer. Really they fly almost the same, just little differences you see in any 2 discs. The red one also had the highest PLH(slightly) of any of the tester shocks ZAM got. I would not attribute the flight differnce to weight, because I don't feel 2g's will make that difference. Almost every Shock I saw had nearly identical PLH, so don't get to worried about all that when they are released.
Let me set this straight. It is nothing like a TB, FB, PD, Banshee, Predator or Orc.
If I had to compare all three MVP drivers this is how they rank
Amp = Sidewinder
Volt = Q-Orion LS
Shock = S/M-Orion LF 1.1
ZAM and myself hit the field after work, I'm not sure if he threw it actually. Anyways I find in this case it makes since to compare the Shock to the Volt as they can be similar.
The Shock and Volt can hold similar lines but they don't fly the same. I found the Shock handled power better than the Volt. As in it flew farther because it flipped forward later and has more low speed fade so it can fight out of the flip
Here are the shots the Shock excels at:
Flat spin controlled hyzers - so those with low speed will like this for hyzers
Distance Hyzer flips - flips flat with a bit of turn and then fades back
Comparing Shock to the Volt:
The Volt when flipped up wants to hold onto the turn. there is not enough fade to carry it back left. The Shock when flipped up will turn out and then fade back late. This helps it hold power better and carry forward longer. On good hits the Shock was going 25ft farther than the Volt. The Shock comes out of the hand faster, but the speed is the same. I'd say the HSS is the same but the Shock has more LSS.
Here is one of the snippets from my findings
And I would actually rate the Volt a bit differently. I see it more like a straight Valkyrie now.
I don't think I have given out my public rating of the Shock but I have it at 9/5/-1.5/2.5.
Cool, i think i will like this disc, but i was hoping for more HSS.
I think they need to release a truly over-stable Fairway. with something like HSS: 0 and LSS: 3-4
The Amp, Volt, and Shock give you a do it all control combo. Subtle differences but they all have 1-2 lines they really excel at.
I would carry all three. I.e. for strong tailwind I ll use Amp, for calm conditions, use Volt and some headwinds, use Shock using similar throwing form and release angles. I def need to do field work with good amount of wind to figure things out.
If the Shock is as overstable as I think it's going to be, I might drop the Volt from my bag.
A Shock/Amp/beat Vision trio should work for all my driver needs.
We'll see come the first week of February...