Frank Delicious
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Is putting really that easy for pros?
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Frank Delicious said:Is putting really that easy for pros?
i think making them use a bigger disc just punishes them for being good at putting.Star Shark said:Frank Delicious said:Is putting really that easy for pros?
Barring weird conditions they expect to make everything inside of 25-30'
zj1002 said:I wouldn't do PDGA events if I was forced to use a certain size disc on a certain shot
Star Shark said:Frank Delicious said:Is putting really that easy for pros?
Barring weird conditions they expect to make everything inside of 25-30'
No different than lip outs with golf balls. Apparently you haven't played Super Class DG. It's only a little tougher putting with Zephyrs inside 20'. It's not just opinion but based on scores in a hundred sanctioned Super Class rounds. We have a few players who switched to using them for their regular putters once they played in Super Class events.Fritz -I think requiring the use of a large diameter putter would accomplish nothing other than more frustration of spit outs. You think you get spit outs now? Imagine the spit outs from a Zephyer or Condor. Look how many times now with the current putters available, you hit dead center chains and it hits the rim of the cage and out it goes.
zj1002 said:You need to get down here and play MetCenter and Guerrero(opens in Feb). Met is the best example I have ever played on of an open course that requires pinpoint placement. Roy G Guerrero park which opens next month is a Mike Olse course(so its in a way Houck inspired) that looks amazing from what I have seen. It looks like it will set a new standard for golf in austin. Definitely the most money/time the city has ever put into a course in these parts
rehder said:I still think one solution to NAGS is making the putting circle smaller. By using a basket such as the bullseye from gateway would force players to land it close to the basket. Getting it to within 30-25feet would no longer give you an 'easy' putt. To get an easy putt, you would then need to get it within 15feet. Actually this would not remove NAGS zones, but it would move them in closer to the basket.
Chuck Kennedy said:No different than lip outs with golf balls. Apparently you haven't played Super Class DG. It's only a little tougher putting with Zephyrs inside 20'. It's not just opinion but based on scores in a hundred sanctioned Super Class rounds. We have a few players who switched to using them for their regular putters once they played in Super Class events.I think requiring the use of a large diameter putter would accomplish nothing other than more frustration of spit outs. You think you get spit outs now? Imagine the spit outs from a Zephyer or Condor. Look how many times now with the current putters available, you hit dead center chains and it hits the rim of the cage and out it goes.
Where switching to Zephyrs and larger for pros only would make more of a difference is on longer putts. That's where putting is "too easy" for the better pros. That would bring putting percentages more in line with ball golf which as a game has a better balance between putting versus other shots than DG. When there's more doubt about whether a player will make a putt, there's more potential interest for spectators. Where this relates to NAGS is the tougher you make putting, the less NAGS is a design concern. Even though ball golfers have been hitting longer on older par 4 designs, you don't hear about NAGS, just that the best pro golfers need to be better with their wedges because putting is still tough.
Fritz said:zj1002 said:You need to get down here and play MetCenter and Guerrero(opens in Feb). Met is the best example I have ever played on of an open course that requires pinpoint placement. Roy G Guerrero park which opens next month is a Mike Olse course(so its in a way Houck inspired) that looks amazing from what I have seen. It looks like it will set a new standard for golf in austin. Definitely the most money/time the city has ever put into a course in these parts
Can't wait. Is this part kind of a sorry we took Pease away from you, here is a badass new course?
turso said:Complex matter, this. I don't see making exceptions to make things more difficult just for the pros feasible. Making them use size restricted discs seems just dumb to me, but I wouldn't mind adding a few puts per round more if they decided to make the baskets smaller, but they'd have to make the transition time to the smaller baskets at least 10 years since baskets don't come cheap and asking every course that wants to be a pdga certified for competition would be too taxing I think.
Adjusting the accepted basket size to smaller now, but still accepting the current baskets for a period of transition would probably work just fine. But again, is it the best choice or needed at all for that matter?
JR said:turso said:Complex matter, this. I don't see making exceptions to make things more difficult just for the pros feasible. Making them use size restricted discs seems just dumb to me, but I wouldn't mind adding a few puts per round more if they decided to make the baskets smaller, but they'd have to make the transition time to the smaller baskets at least 10 years since baskets don't come cheap and asking every course that wants to be a pdga certified for competition would be too taxing I think.
Adjusting the accepted basket size to smaller now, but still accepting the current baskets for a period of transition would probably work just fine. But again, is it the best choice or needed at all for that matter?
If it were to be seen as an advantage to diminish basket sizes one could remove the outer chains of the existing baskets for el cheapo.
Fritz said:OMG!!! That place looks amazing! Those teepads are sick! I am even more jealous you get to play that course whenever you want.