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Yup, automatic 1 point deduction.
Those are definitely not gonna be overhand discs. They are both pretty much the most understable discs that each of those manufacturers offer. The Stratus is nice for mid-range anny's and will hold the anny line all the way through. However, with the Vision, I can't even anny it it's so understable. If you release that disc on an anny it is going to dive right hard and roll, but hey, it does make a pretty decent roller. I will hyzer-flip the Vision and it will still go right (RHBH), but sometimes that's just what the doctor ordered.
I drive, putt, and approach with it. Everything...
I am curious as to how far you can throw the Vision and how far you throw in general because it is impossible for me to get it to stay straight no matter how much hyzer I put on it. I'll go for an extreme hyzer release and it will go about 200' before it starts heading right and maybe another 100' after it starts its turn, but there is no way in hell that thing is coming back left or even flattening out unless I throw it like 80' high. Basically, I can throw my Buzzz further than the Vision (300'-Vision, 320'-Buzzz, 350'-Teebird, 370'-Surge SS), but I have no other disc that will fly on the same line as the Vision, which is why I find it useful in certain situations.I hyzer flip that vision and it stays so straight. I like the Core too. I am impressed with Lat 64 so far.
I just updated mine. Rip away. I'll do some when I get home.
No offense, but if I had to play with that bag I would throw it down in disgust, kick all your discs out of it, pour gasoline over them, and set them ablaze. Consider yourself lucky that we're currently under a burn-ban down here.
Care to elaborate?
Instead of carrying multiple molds, I carry new to beat. So instead of carrying Teerex, Wraith, Surge SS, Sidewinder, I carry PDs from New S Line to beat in proformance line. It makes everything a lot simplier and you get to know your discs much better. If you look at many of the top Pro's bags, this is the philosophy they use.
What do you use for Anhyzer shots? I did not see too much understable stuff.
I'll go ahead and rate my own bag, The Vault. It's small, simple and serves me quite well. I'll give it a 9.63.
I'll go ahead and rate my own bag, The Vault. It's small, simple and serves me quite well. I'll give it a 9.63.
On a good drive I can turnover my surge pretty well, but I would say the Avenger ss. This disc is incredibly understable, as much if not more so than the valk.
Tbird:
A few questions. The groove, I have not thrown it but looks pretty similar to the surge may be a little faster and slightly more stable, is there a noticeable difference. Also, you have a lot of mids do you use all four of those four of those for specific situations? it seems like you would be fine with just three maybe either the drone or the wasp, the buzzz and the impact. Finally how do you use the flick, what type of shot?