I agree that gaining 100' all at once, from one little change, is mostly hogwash/hype. I agree developing fast twitch muscle, and muscle memory, takes a while. But, I went from probably 100' max throw day one, quickly to 150', then 200', then gradually 225', 245', and now 265' max, in a total of 5 months playing. I hope by 1 year that I will be over 300'. But, I play or practice multiple days a week, regularly get video of my throw, study throwing technique, and work on improving my form/technique. Also, my gains include changing discs from a starter pack Leopard to light weight distance drivers, and correcting multiple technique/form mistakes along the way. Also, I am 54 years old, and not an athlete, so I could see guys like former baseball players, etc., maybe jumping even further even faster if they made multiple improvements in form. My son is 16, and day one he threw about 100' same as me, and with form work, and throwing just stand still, in even less than 5 months, playing just one day a week, he went to 275' max.
Most people throw between 45-55mph. All the youtube videos talking about getting 100ft of more distance is hogwash. Developing more fast twitch muscles takes years. Take it slow, and dont believe what you see online
There is only 1 way to gain 100 feet when you're struggling for distance.
Well, its 1 way with caveats.
The key to distance with low exit velocity is to have at least good enough form to have a level of spin control that you are able to replicate to start with.
And the knowledge/ability to throw nose down.
This partnered with the correct disc selection is 100 feet for your average golfer stuck at 300 feet.
I instantly push 400 when I get the nose down on 6 speed discs with my standard 300 foot throw.
The higher the disc speed, to take this back to the topic start, the more critical the nose angle is on the disc. Putters are designed to float and glide like a Cesna airplane, nice and glidey, can go kinda fast, but glide.
You get into drivers, and were talking about turbo prop style airplanes where they can kinda glide, but the wing angle and speed is more important to stay up.
Drag coefficients on a nose up disc are insane especially when the wing becomes more in the case of streamline, ala, designed for speed, vs a low speed glide disc. This is why ultimate's are so easy to throw, but turn understable when oversped in the throw.
So when we look at a disc designed to punch through the air, and a tiny little bit of that rim underneath is showing, it creates turbulence inside the bottom of the flight plate and you get massive drag.
We'll see all that when I get the wind tunnel done and I'm able to show this on video for everyone.
This stuff is all really basic flight dynamics. Drag is drag. And with how discs fly, drag stalls a disc, and a disc is going to fall in the easiest direction.
A nose down disc is more likely to push forward and go further simply from this, not necessarily from arm speed. But if you're talking elite distance, then yes. you need the speed.
Simons video on speed/disc is missleading to that point because it demonstrates that the disc will go further as designed, but also demonstrates that its speed dependent and skill dependent. he's able to throw discs correctly.
Were all not Simon. So that 1° of nose angle we might throw with can be the difference between a 10 speed driver going 300 feet and 450 feet.
How do I know that?
Cause when I throw bigger discs properly, I'm pushing 450-480.
When I get my normal throw. I have hyzer stalls at 320 max. And its just that LITTLE bit of nose angle that is the difference.
So, do faster discs go further?
Yes, they are designed to, when thrown properly at the correct angle and the designed speed.
Should you throw faster discs?
No.
You're really hurting your game if you think they are helping you.
There are situations for them, but you're more likely to make an error with a fast disc than you are with a slow disc.
