RowingBoats
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Man, I know SW used a hammer to learn how to drive a disc...
Guess he also used one to learn how to drive a point home lol.
Guess he also used one to learn how to drive a point home lol.
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Here is a terrible analogy. I'm sorry but it's the only thing I can think of at the moment, and we have to work with what we got. Have you ever twisted up a curtain cord? Like really twisted it up? You know, as part of the Good Fight against Boredom?
When you release the pressure from your pinch and just let it go - pop! - the cord starts spinning pretty quickly as it releases all that tension you created by twisting it up. Try it again. But this time - actively rotate your pinch to the right as you release it. It doesn't work as well/ spin as fast. Why?
You can honestly throw pretty far & still ********
You can honestly throw pretty far & still be a bug squisher. The motion pretty much amounts to forcing the front hip to maximally clear, which of course produces a big chunk of the power in the disc golf swing.
For a player that wasn't getting a full front hip clear in their swing or sequencing it properly, "making it happen" with the rear leg turn/ drive/ bug squish sure does feel powerful and true. This is probably another reason why the squish-the-bug-instruction is so popular & persistent across multiple sports now.
You will never throw far & accurately as a bug squisher. Think about it: the variability of initiating the movement with an active rear leg drive has to be much higher than the variability of releasing the pressure you've created into the ground. This is the point of this (still terrible) analogy.
I see the confusion. There needs to be a scale of distances that shows the discrepancies between "bug-squish" distance and proper shifting.
After all the reading, watching videos {pros throwing, pros teaching, SW, Overthrow, Slingshot, etc.), practicing, recording my throw, practicing more, I still do not use my core well enough, so these type of threads really interest me. They also confuse me.
The don't squish the bug argument is very compelling and I have been trying to follow that teaching. Then Slingshot comes along squishing the bug and throwing far so I consider it.
SW posted these videos elsewhere and I think they are pretty conclusive on whether or not someone should "squish the bug" in baseball pitching/hitting and the disc golf throw. Spoiler alert--they shouldn't.
Not really pushing or driving upward. Driving forward after you squat/fall/drop and leg angles forward(shifting from behind you). Think of your leg more as a pogo stick that changes angles against the ground \ / as it compresses and extends.Does driving the triple extension mean that you should be thinking about pushing up with your back leg off the X-step? I don't know how to generate more ground forces as I'm traveling down the tee pad. The weight on my back side usually feels pretty weak, so I don't have much left to push off.
The pros are actually showing the correct motion slowed down which is a forward move.After all the reading, watching videos {pros throwing, pros teaching, SW, Overthrow, Slingshot, etc.), practicing, recording my throw, practicing more, I still do not use my core well enough, so these type of threads really interest me. They also confuse me.
I know feel ain't real so what some describe they do is not actually what they do - pros are about the worst for this - which can lead to advice that is probably not the best, so I try to keep this in mind when taking in any teachings.
The don't squish the bug argument is very compelling and I have been trying to follow that teaching. Then Slingshot comes along squishing the bug and throwing far so I consider it.
In doing so, I came across this article that I thought was very interesting :
https://www.dacbaseball.com/to-squish-or-to-not-squish-the-bug/
"And, not to be forgotten, squish the bug or don't squish the bug, it really doesn't matter."
Thoughts?
The amount of people out there teaching to spin/twist/turn the hips right now is mind boggling. It's really unfortunate.
I don't know which is worse:
The people who teach spinning and can throw well (they just don't understand or can't articulate what they're doing)
People tend to think of griplocks as late releases, but to me it seems like the opposite? Not necessarily an early release, but the disc coming forward prematurely compared to the brace, so once your front leg is actually braced the disc is way too far along the throwing lotion and once you pinch down on your grip it ejects out at 45 degrees. If the disc was further back once you were braced and then pinched down it would release straight targetward. Does that make sense?