beereakfast
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Doesn't this all fall under maritime salvage law?
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The way I see it is if I won't swim to get it then its lost. I always call to try and return discs but if its in a pond and I don't have the guts to swim for it it's my loss finders keepers. I watched a buddy throw one into the middle of a big pond whoever finds that one is the man. Now bash if u want to lol.
If there's some sort of ink on a disc, I always try to get it back to the owner, no matter where I find it. That being said I'm pretty much on board with the above train of thought. It's one thing if you come across a disc in the process of playing your round, whether looking for your or a card mate's shot - I believe you should make a reasonable attempt to get the disc back to the owner if there's number or other ID on it.
However, going into water is different. The person who threw it in the water made a conscious decision to abandon their disc: whether that's because it was too deep, too nasty, too dangerous, too scary, too wet... pissed though they were when it happened, they just didn't think it was worth the hassle of going after it. The diver is making a conscious effort to salvage discs, and is assuming the risk/hassle that the previous owners were not willing to assume. A call back would be nice, but I have no mean words for a disc diver that keeps/sells stuff I wasn't willing to go after. If the wet disc was thrown in water by someone who foound it on land and didn't call, then the crime was committed by the first finder, not the diver.
I have unkind words for those who don't call phone #'s on disc found on land. This applies to tourneys, casual rounds, whatever... it's all disc golf to me.
i have really good disc finding eyes. and that is the worst.
Outside of tournament play, if you lose the disc, and abandon looking for it, you gave up your right to complain about the disc in question. Yes, the right thing to do is return the disc if possible, but it is not an obligation. I've lost atleast 12 discs (not all by my own doing) in my short time of play. I never expect to see them again, I gave up looking and I will/have replaced the disc. Sure some may have sentimental value, but if they had that much sentimental value, maybe you shouldn't run the risk of losing said disc.This is stated perfect. I also agree though that it is always nice to be called or texted when you lose a disc and I will always do the same but for all these people who have their panties in a bunch over people who find discs and don't return them well it is your fault in the first place you lost the disc. It sucks but who said life was fair?
Wow. Now some of you guys are making distinctions between wet lost discs and dry lost discs. There must be some cool law degrees being found in boxes of Captain Crunch. I may have to go buy me a box.
It is always the right thing to do to offer to return someone's property to them. You have no idea the circumstances which brought the disc to that place. The only thing you know is that it's not yours.
The right thing for the disc owner to do, if the retrieval is extraordinary---like in gator-infested waters---is to offer a reward. Whether you accept the reward is up to you.
Proverbs and opinions aside, there is that thing called the law. I know, it's only good when you need it, but it's also there when you break it
You know, we learned as very young children that we dont just take things that dont belong to us. Why dont you go fish your disc and leave the rest?
I kinda' hope they're right. I have big plans for this Abandonment Law. I have my sights set on better things than just old discs. And I may need these guys to defend me in court.
Me too!
The next time I see a car parked on a street in the same place for more than 3 hours in the rain, I am going to claim it as abandoned. There is no way anyone would think it's OK to leave a car out in the rain like that!
A disc and car are not comparable. I am not saying don't return discs I am saying be reasonable with the discussion of returned discs.
A misdemeanor and a felony. That's a big difference.
A disc is more like the pack of gum, not the car.
I'm curious what should make discs different, anway? Isn't this the right thing to do for anything you find, anywhere? A wallet or a runaway dog or a car left in a parking lot or a phone or anything else of value? If you know it's not yours it must be someone else's; if it's reasonable to assume it has value and fairly easy to ascertain the owner, shouldn't you try to return it?
Either action will result in an arrest if caught by a local Law Enforcement Officer.