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David Vs. Goliath

Who will win???

  • Goliath - 0 experience but crazy athletic

    Votes: 16 10.7%
  • David - 2.5 years of experience and a solid 300 - 350ft. drive

    Votes: 113 75.8%
  • Who cares, stop wasting valuable interwebs space

    Votes: 20 13.4%

  • Total voters
    149
my money is on "David" to win but the big guy could pull it off. A couple of weeks ago the husband of one of my wifes friends came over to play for the first time. He had never thrown a disc before but he was a pretty good baseball pitcher and is still in really good shape at 6'2 and about 240. I gave him some leopards to warm up with a bit and he was doing the big hyzer as expected. After about 10 throws with the leopard i gave him a beat sidewinder and the dude ripped it about 350 his first throw, i was pretty amazed. When we played he was getting pretty consistent up to 300 with little control. I guess if the guy has some pretty good snap he may rip one off but the hard part will be him getting the right disc in his hands...
 
if this guy is an actual Athlete and not just some large person that hits the gym a lot, people seem to get the 2 confused pretty often...an athlete with a little help understanding what makes the disc go far (spin), and not so much how to throw it, will be able to break 400' at sea level the first day. i will try and get one of the guys on my football team, reciever/qb type and give him a few throws and measure to get a more accurate result of an athletes first time throwing.
 
RESULTS (finally)

The Giant is slain!!! - Sorry it took so long! I failed on the video footage side of things (so sorry!!:doh:) so you'll have to satiated with a blow by blow account. First off, if anyone is in New Hampshire today, you'll know that it is VERY windy out there! We got to the field and stuff was blowing all over the place (made for a very nice atmosphere for a showdown). I did give Goliath a bit of a crash course on wind control just to make it even, but as there was no prevailing wind direction it wasn't much help. As per the rules, he went first and started off with the Valkyrie. He had done some homework and read that it was the world record holder so props for looking into it! Anyway, first throw was the standard newb hyzer, but accentuated greatly by the right to left wind that took the disc about 200ft. left and 100ft. ahead. The next few throws he put a lot more power in but was throwing way too high and getting the hyzer. By throw 15 he was keeping it low but was putting too much anhyzer on it to try and make up for the fade from before. He actually got a decent 250ft. drive on throw 25 that had me a bit nervous that he was going to get it done. After tasting initial success, he began putting a ton of power into it and the valk started turning and burning. After about 5 of those, he asked what disc would be easier to throw hard and I explained overstable/understable and what discs were what. He grabbed the boss AMA and started hammering away. In the 40s, he was definitely getting tired but gave a couple of epic tries and got the boss out to a little past 300ft (based on the football field we were on). That was his best and so I grabbed my discs. I first used the archon and way overdid it trying to win on my first throw. It ended up about 250ft. out and about 100ft. too far to the right from the turn and burn. My second shot I went for the sure thing and threw my DX Banshee on a roller. It hit about 150ft. out and rolled. And rolled. AND rolled past the boss by about 20ft! Not my best roller but enough for the win! I threw one more (Blizzard Destroyer) to try and drive it home but released a little early and caught that damn wind. Frankly, though I did win, it was a little too close for comfort (gotta work on my driving some more I guess) and I don't like that I had to use a roller. I know they are a perfectly legitimate shot, and it really drives home the strategy vs brawn argument, but I would have liked to have the best air shot too. I also now have the problem that the winning disc was a beat DX that isn't worth dyeing...
SO! I hope this was at least an adequate wrap up. I'm hoping that I've added at least one new devotee to the sport. "Goliath" was a pretty good sport and has already started ribbing me for only beating him with 1 out of 3, so I think I got him at least interested. I apologize again for the lack of video (no excuses, I straight out forgot) and also for all the delays. kachtz mentioned he was going to do his own test - hopefully you'll post the results on this thread once you get them and maybe even video it? It was neat watching someone try and feel out the driving process and others will definitely enjoy seeing it as well.
 
A roller? Look, I love throwing rollers, I love watching rollers. For what you were trying to prove, IMO a roller doesn't count.
 
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Rollers aren't part of distance competition.

 
a roller doesn't seem to me like it should count either if the point was to see who can throw farther but what do I know.
 
a roller doesn't seem to me like it should count either if the point was to see who can throw farther but what do I know.

You know right, typically in a distance event you mark where the disc hit the ground, not where it finished.
 
Yeah, sounds to me like goliath won, LOL.
 
Guess people really DO think rollers are cheating huh? In my defense, I originally wanted 5 shots instead of 3 to make up for screw ups (like my first and last drive) but I do feel like it was only a technical victory. It was a risk to throw the roller as they are in no way my specialty, but I'd have rather won in the air....
 
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A roller? Look, I love throwing rollers, I love watching rollers. For what you were trying to prove, IMO a roller doesn't count.

But isn't a roller an example of strategy overcoming brute strength?
 
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probably not a roller... But I guess it is fitting given the story the thread title refers.

(thank you www.hyzerbomb.com for the picture)(support the AWESOME North Texas disc golf company)
 
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