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[Mids] Fastest mid? Near fairway range
- Thread starter tu-f-o
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I doubt.
I used to have a truth, was waiting for someone to mention.
Squall might be farther.
Both might fit what I seek. Warship is interesting.
How do these compare in stability?
SD86
Banned
I found the Compass (Opto and Gold Line) to be a bit shorter than the Buzzz, which is one reason the Buzzz made my bag. Compass is a good disc, but not long for a mid.
I doubt.
wolfmandragon
* Ace Member *
Truth is a dumpy Buzzz...its not even getting the distance of a Buzzz...and both the Kaxe and the Squall crush a Buzzz, at least for distance
PMantle
* Ace Member *
This is wrong.
wolfmandragon
* Ace Member *
I have seen you give enough good advice to beleive that is true for you....but not for me. I've bagged both, and can get a good 15 to 20 extra feet out of a Buzzz. I've thrown friends, so it wasnt just the disc I owned.
Makes me curoius about the difference in our throwing styles.
Warship and Squall are fairly similar in stability in that they're both stable-understable. The big difference is the Warship has loads more glide b/c it's a wide diam. mid. I'd say the Squall is probably farther though b/c it should travel farther on a lower line. I really liked the VIP Warship I had but even though it was 170g+ it broke in to be too flippy for me. It became a "hyzer-flip and watch it gradually turn and hang in the air forever" disc instead of something I could trust to fade. I found Squalls to be more trust-worthy b/c the sharper rim didn't allow it to be bothered by wind as much. They're both great for long, straight, wooded holes though.
On the Truth debate, there seems to be a fair amount of stability variation with that mold, not to mention the EMac Truth version in the mix. The Lucid Truth I had reminded me a lot of a nice ESP Buzzz, a hint of turn and long forward fade. I've thrown Buzzzes that were longer and some that were dumpier than the Truth so it's a wash IMO.
One last thing about the Warship, if I remember right it has at least a small bead on it and is shaped more similarly to a DX Rancho Roc/Comet type mid rather than a Buzzz/Truth type mid. If you want a similar flight without the bead you can do a lot worse than a GL Core, another disc we used to have endless debates on whether it was longer or shorter than a Buzzz.
wolfmandragon
* Ace Member *
Good info Brother Dave, although I find the Emac version to be the least dumpy.
Regardless, neither the Truth or the Buzzz is making more distance than the Squall or Kaxe. I have never thrown a Warship, so I cannot comment there.
I feel the Kaxe, at least in the K1 plastic, is a slightly shorter Teebird...as in 8 to 10 foot shorter...same classic line, but it does need more height than the Squall.
Regardless, neither the Truth or the Buzzz is making more distance than the Squall or Kaxe. I have never thrown a Warship, so I cannot comment there.
I feel the Kaxe, at least in the K1 plastic, is a slightly shorter Teebird...as in 8 to 10 foot shorter...same classic line, but it does need more height than the Squall.
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Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
I would say a Impact is between a midrange and a fairway driver it is not either, it is in its own category called midrange driver or driving midrange. I say being that Discraft calls it a fairway disc and Infinite Discs call the Impact a midrange I will call it a midrange driver. The disc feels like a midrange but flies the distance of a slow fairway driver. The Wombat from Innova is a midrange disc that flies like the Impact.
wims
Double Eagle Member
I dont understand the point in having a midrange that goes fairway distances. It's no longer a midrange if it flies fairway distances
thirtydirtybirds
Double Eagle Member
I didn't either until I threw the kaxe a bit. It's nice having a mid that tops out at mid distances but on a lower line
VictorB
* Ace Member *
Super fast 'midrange' discs - hornet, squall, warship, M4
'Slow' fairways - gazelle, JLS, polaris, stalker, zombee, leopard, cyclone
'Slow' fairways - gazelle, JLS, polaris, stalker, zombee, leopard, cyclone
ThomasOrion
* Ace Member *
Squall, Kaxe, Stalker are all good options. I haven't had experience with anything else lately. The Truth is a faster Mid in my opinion, same with the Verdict. But sounds like you may want to check out the Kaxe or Stalker - I'd like to hear some more on these type of discs
ThomasOrion
* Ace Member *
Ok, looks like KAXE is stable-Overstable and the KAXE-Z is beadles so a lil less overstable. I think those are good to try out for what your hoping for a tweener mid/fairway
ThomasOrion
* Ace Member *
also look into the ANDRO-C tweener disc as well
Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
However some discs like the Impact are in between a fairway driver and a midrange disc. These one are great for those shots a fairway driver is too much and a midrange is not enough. Impact also does tunnel shots very well.
