Two years ago, the local PIAS started ordering brands other than Discraft and Innova. I got away from throwing any Innova discs after that. However, I found a DX Leopard recently and I think it just may find a way to stay in my bag. I am really impressed how well it holds the lines I put it on. I need a reliable disc in a base plastic so I don't cringe so hard if I lose it in the water.