[MVP] MVP Disc Sports (Official Thread)

[AcornRadio42]

Like a straight Pred

Maybe more overstable Avenger/QOLF

what kind of innova numbers would you give it? and does it fight wind well?

 

[UnitedPuppySlayer]

I'd probably give it a 8-9/5/0/2.5? True 0 HSS tho. That's my favorite part about it.

 

[AcornRadio42]

I'd probably give it a 8-9/5/0/2.5? True 0 HSS tho. That's my favorite part about it.

thanks. thats more what i was hoping for when it was released. when i heard it was a volt with more fade i lost interest. so i guess ill be picking one up to try out now

 

[zj1002]

Yeah the first batch didn't have much HSS

They basically gave it more HSS, the LSS was always there

 

[New013]

**** yea.... going to get me one of those. i've only got two 1.2 SOLFs left and I'd rather find something stock to replace them then play the huting game. I already have to do that with to many molds I throw.

 

[811rv]

Happy to see new Shocks having HSS of 0 so I think Shocks will replace my PDs. Cannot wait for Tangent as I am sure they will replace my Fuses.

 

[xJFK]

Any idea when the updated shocks are going out to retail?

 

[zj1002]

I think that's up to MVP moving old stock

I know DN should restock Shocks very soon

I'll let you know if they are the new ones

 

[Ty_Ty]

so how did the old flight numbers compare to the new.....would help some with comparisons.

I have had my shock for a week.....still have another two months before i can throw it :/

 

[Aim For The Chains]

scroll up a few posts... lol

 

[Rockiesfan4ever]

I've never thrown MVP before but I really want to take a hard look at the new Tangent they are gonna release

 

[Ty_Ty]

scroll up a few posts... lol

i know about that one, but i mean side by side: old numbers vs new.

that way people can see the projected diffrences.

 

[UnitedPuppySlayer]

New - 9/5/0/2.5
Old - 9/5/-.75/2

i know about that one, but i mean side by side: old numbers vs new.

that way people can see the projected diffrences.

There you go.

 

[Ty_Ty]

Originally Posted by UnitedPuppySlayer
New - 9/5/0/2.5
Old - 9/5/-.75/2

:thmbup:

 

[Rogue9]

Really that's something everyone should consider. Boiling water trick can be used to add or remove dome to tweak the flight of your disc.

So I have two very stable amps, even though the second was supposed to be from a newer batch. If I flatten one should it come out more understable? Wouldn't flattening raise plh?

 

[UnitedPuppySlayer]

So I have two very stable amps, even though the second was supposed to be from a newer batch. If I flatten one should it come out more understable? Wouldn't flattening raise plh?

Not necessarily. You're not making the PLH go higher up the wing of the disc, you're just compressing the dome.

 

[in4d]

So I have two very stable amps, even though the second was supposed to be from a newer batch. If I flatten one should it come out more understable? Wouldn't flattening raise plh?

flatter = less air resistance = holds speed longer = HSS lasts longer = More turn durring HSS phase

 

[Sean Johnson]

So I have two very stable amps, even though the second was supposed to be from a newer batch. If I flatten one should it come out more understable? Wouldn't flattening raise plh?

I have three Volts, two Shocks, and two amps, all at 169-170 and every single one of them is less overstable than my Stormtrooper Amp @173. I compared the PLH on all of them and the the Stormtrooper had the lowest by a fair margain. So while I agree that plh is a useful (and probably the most accurate) guide for relative stability, it's not exactly fool-proof because there are so many other variables at work. Just like I don't think that the Amp is more overstable soley because it's three or four grams heavier.

I personally haven't seen a significant impact on plh unless it's a really domey disc to start with. At that point, I would reconsider the boiling water trick anyway. Trying to drop too much dome can result in clovering, a sunken deck, or just general unevenness. However, I do see a flight change every time I've tried it - most of the time, they are more understable.

 

[UnitedPuppySlayer]

I have three Volts, two Shocks, and two amps, all at 169-170 and every single one of them is less overstable than my Stormtrooper Amp @173. I compared the PLH on all of them and the the Stormtrooper had the lowest by a fair margain. So while I agree that plh is a useful (and probably the most accurate) guide for relative stability, it's not exactly fool-proof because there are so many other variables at work. Just like I don't think that the Amp is more overstable soley because it's three or four grams heavier.

You can't really compare PLHs too much between different molds. Different wing shapes cause the different PLHs to act differently. A high PLH on an Amp may cause it to be more stable that a Shock with a low PLH, but is still higher than the Amp's.

 

[Sean Johnson]

You can't really compare PLHs too much between different molds. Different wing shapes cause the different PLHs to act differently. A high PLH on an Amp may cause it to be more stable that a Shock with a low PLH, but is still higher than the Amp's.

I agree, that was sort of what I was alluding to. However, even "apples to apples," it's more overstable than my other Amps or any other Amp I've thrown. So much so that it's found a new home as my overstable control driver. I'm just planning on thrashing it until I can get some of the new beefy Shocks in a lighter weight.