racer93
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One last question about PD2s--was the overstability of the C-line luster discs an aberration or the norm?
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Flick Maniac
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What do you mean? All luster PD2s are super OS is what I heard. Not all C-lines are super OS. Not sure what you mean by aberration or the norm, but as there has only yet been one run of luster PD2s, for that mold, overstability is the norm. Luster plastic itself does not seem to make ALL molds (super) overstable, but some molds it does.
racer93
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What I meant was if the Luster PD2s were more overstable than the other PD2s in other plastics. Aberration just means to be unusual or a "freak" accident.
The point is I have known the PD2s to be overstable but the lusters I have are just stupid overstable. As I pointed out above, my G-line is much less overstable.
The point is I have known the PD2s to be overstable but the lusters I have are just stupid overstable. As I pointed out above, my G-line is much less overstable.
Only problem you are going to run into with G line is that in the middle of the summer it is going to feel floppy. PD2 is such a naturally OS disc that getting real turn out of it is hard without anhyzer release. I have an S line I have been beating in for about a year and it is still basically a fresh destroyer.
racer93
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You're right about the summer. I don't mind it with the gstar roadrunner I have. I tend to like softer plastic, anyway. (I feel I can get a better grip on the disc.) It really does start out like a fresh destroyer. Super nice!
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Yeah I believe the moronically OS PD2s in C-line are: MF, luster, 2014 run bubble rim pop tops (i.e.2nd run)
There are some ludicrously OS S-line runs too but someone else can pinpoint the runs if they know better
There are some ludicrously OS S-line runs too but someone else can pinpoint the runs if they know better
Reniger
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The Swirly S-Line Hypno Huk are stupid OS. Eagle and Simon have talked about them in commentary, ITBs, interviews and such as being one of the most OS runs. I got one just because I think they're pretty, but there's no way in hell I can throw for anything other than a Firebird shot. And I have Firebirds for that. 
Strauss
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I've got a swirly Supreme Flight stamped PD2 that is ultra beef, flies identical to my swirly Hypno Huk stamp which of course is also mega beef.
I've thrown a luster a few times and it was at least as crazy overstable as those two, maybe even a tad more.
I bag the swirly Supreme Flight stamp for beef, paired with a G-line for more workable distance in moderate headwinds.
I've thrown a luster a few times and it was at least as crazy overstable as those two, maybe even a tad more.
I bag the swirly Supreme Flight stamp for beef, paired with a G-line for more workable distance in moderate headwinds.
racer93
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Yeah, my G-line is just awesome in calm or just a slight headwind. I can't wait to play a round and get some quality time with it...
Are there any plans for Discmania to ever produce a disc similar or possibly even the same mold as the Innova Max the same way as was done with the Gremlin? I love my pop-top Star Max and flat top Champion Max, but the online supply of these discs is very small and I would love to see full production runs of a disc with the combination of speed and stability the Max gives because of how usefull these discs are for me and how much fun they are to throw something that massively overstable.
And before anyone throws out a response talking about a Metal Flake or Swirly S Line PD2, the Max is still more stable.
And before anyone throws out a response talking about a Metal Flake or Swirly S Line PD2, the Max is still more stable.
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What is different about the plastic in the s-line gremlin? It doesn't seem to be your typical s-line to me or anyone I show it too. Also if you could make other molds with that blend I'd be very very happy
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Discmania_Support
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Good question. X-Outs have been restocked in small quantities here and there. We are saving our special ones for our upcoming Mystery Box release soon. Keep an eye out!!
Good question. X-Outs have been restocked in small quantities here and there. We are saving our special ones for our upcoming Mystery Box release soon. Keep an eye out!!
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P3x is going to be quite the crowd pleaser . No details to spread on that topic unfortunately.
The current run is 7th and will be just what you are looking for in stability.
Hit up your local stores and have them give us a shout! We are increasing our efforts to get dealers the things they need, or haven't thought about getting yet and now is a good opportunity for them to do so. If you need help pointing them in the right direction, please shoot us an email at the store and we can help. I do agree with what you said above as well.
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These CD3's were definitely two batches and labeled as such. The first runs were technically the Konopiste CD3 and were followed by the First Run release. These discs were not released until the Thrower edition which were second runs. The scheduled FR release then occurred and the ones we had been saving were then set loose. I hope that helps.
Good points. The unofficial "DD3" which would be commonly speculated, will be exactly that. We have some other projects to complete first and then will set after something like that. We have been working with the idea of a more HSS DDx but as said before, just need to iron out a few details and release a few scheduled molds beforehand.
That's a fair request. Unfortunately, not all tops and bottoms of discs are compatible. We would surely like to create some sort of DD3 but have just a couple of projects to finalize first before we head down that path. We are very happy to hear that you like the feel of the CD3 and we feel the same way too. Our goal is to create more hits like the DDx but have a slightly deeper rim so it is more comfortable for everyone.
Well, let me give you a quick breakdown of my bag for starters. I recommend keeping your bag as simple as possible and diversifying the loadout of plastics amongst the molds in there.
P2: 2 P-Lines for putting, 1 D-Line for throwing, 1 S-Line for straighter throws and upshots, and 1 C-Line for maximum stability throws and upshots
MD: 1 C-Line
MD3: 2 Metal flakes for most shots and versatility, 1 Glow for more reliability in windy spots
FD: 2 C-Lines for most shots and reliability, 1 S-Line for straighter lines and rollers, 1 D-Line for anhyzers and rollers
FD3: 1 S-Line for straighter power hyzers, 1 C-Line for more overstable shots and thumbers
PD: 1 S-Line for straight consistent shots with some play in the air, 2 C-Line ones with varying stability depending on how much wind there is out there or how much it needs to fade
DD: 2 S-Lines (one beat up one new) for reliable max D shots
DD2: 1 S-Line for the occasional big D forehand or longer backhands
PD2: 1 S-Line for straighter power shots and 1 C-Line for max stability
1 mini for super sweet marking skillz
I hope that helps a bit or answers your question somewhat. I know everyone is different.
I am sure there is a list somewhere but am not sure on the location
P3x is going to be quite the crowd pleaser . No details to spread on that topic unfortunately.
The current run is 7th and will be just what you are looking for in stability.
Interesting discussion happening on the facebooks regarding these P2's - Two school of thoughts:
- Eagle deserves this signature P2 (no one is arguing against that) and the demand for white P2's/To Support eagle is there. Fair amount of excitement for these!
- People wanting DM to figure out stock molds first and then focus on signature molds/special stamps second. The online store has been one of the few places to max weight P2's, s-line PD2s, etc. and newer runs of each mold period. Most of these have a DM store specific stamp or limited stock stamp release. I will attest to the fact that my local stores have slim pickings of the new DM stuff.
Not sure where I stand... I haven't started throwing any of the new DM molds or runs of the discs. I love my old buttery DDs, first run FD's and soft blend of DP2s. However my P2 stack is thinning out and I would love to find max weights in the shop nearby
Hit up your local stores and have them give us a shout! We are increasing our efforts to get dealers the things they need, or haven't thought about getting yet and now is a good opportunity for them to do so. If you need help pointing them in the right direction, please shoot us an email at the store and we can help. I do agree with what you said above as well.
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These CD3's were definitely two batches and labeled as such. The first runs were technically the Konopiste CD3 and were followed by the First Run release. These discs were not released until the Thrower edition which were second runs. The scheduled FR release then occurred and the ones we had been saving were then set loose. I hope that helps.
Good points. The unofficial "DD3" which would be commonly speculated, will be exactly that. We have some other projects to complete first and then will set after something like that. We have been working with the idea of a more HSS DDx but as said before, just need to iron out a few details and release a few scheduled molds beforehand.
That's a fair request. Unfortunately, not all tops and bottoms of discs are compatible. We would surely like to create some sort of DD3 but have just a couple of projects to finalize first before we head down that path. We are very happy to hear that you like the feel of the CD3 and we feel the same way too. Our goal is to create more hits like the DDx but have a slightly deeper rim so it is more comfortable for everyone.
Well, let me give you a quick breakdown of my bag for starters. I recommend keeping your bag as simple as possible and diversifying the loadout of plastics amongst the molds in there.
P2: 2 P-Lines for putting, 1 D-Line for throwing, 1 S-Line for straighter throws and upshots, and 1 C-Line for maximum stability throws and upshots
MD: 1 C-Line
MD3: 2 Metal flakes for most shots and versatility, 1 Glow for more reliability in windy spots
FD: 2 C-Lines for most shots and reliability, 1 S-Line for straighter lines and rollers, 1 D-Line for anhyzers and rollers
FD3: 1 S-Line for straighter power hyzers, 1 C-Line for more overstable shots and thumbers
PD: 1 S-Line for straight consistent shots with some play in the air, 2 C-Line ones with varying stability depending on how much wind there is out there or how much it needs to fade
DD: 2 S-Lines (one beat up one new) for reliable max D shots
DD2: 1 S-Line for the occasional big D forehand or longer backhands
PD2: 1 S-Line for straighter power shots and 1 C-Line for max stability
1 mini for super sweet marking skillz
I hope that helps a bit or answers your question somewhat. I know everyone is different.
I am sure there is a list somewhere but am not sure on the location
We are glad you like your CD3, assuming acting like a Wraith is good for you. We are happy with the way the DDx and CD3 turned out and have gotten very positive feedback on both so far.
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We have definitely talked extensively about making something similar to the Max. Obviously, Eagle preaches about it and throws it on some crazy lines that some of us could only dream of. We have elected to go with a few more molds that will be good for everyone first and then proceed again with discussions about a disc like that. You are correct, though, in saying that the Max is more stable than a PD2.
Those Swirly Huk PD2's are definitely one of the most OS versions to date. The luster and MF ones are certainly in the same ball park and are honestly too difficult to tell which one is more overstable. The only difference is that the Swirl ones just have a considerable amount of dome compared to the new runs of luster and MF.
Other than the P-Line, G-Line is what will give PD2 throwers the most distance out of the disc. Although it gets kind of floppy in the summer, G-Line will be very useful if you can handle the gummy nature of the disc. The new S-Lines at the moment are fantastic as well.
If you want a less stable luster PD2, seek out the 170-172 ones. Those are what you are looking for. Same thing goes for the metal flakes as well. Those discs in particular are long bombers and are not freakishly overstable. Take my word for it.
Luster made the PD2 a piggy PD2 like the others. And you are right in saying that not all luster molds are made more stable by being made in luster. Two molds that come to mind are the PD and P2. Those discs tended to be a bit less stable in luster and we were happy with that as well.
We have definitely talked extensively about making something similar to the Max. Obviously, Eagle preaches about it and throws it on some crazy lines that some of us could only dream of. We have elected to go with a few more molds that will be good for everyone first and then proceed again with discussions about a disc like that. You are correct, though, in saying that the Max is more stable than a PD2.
The Swirly S-Line Hypno Huk are stupid OS. Eagle and Simon have talked about them in commentary, ITBs, interviews and such as being one of the most OS runs. I got one just because I think they're pretty, but there's no way in hell I can throw for anything other than a Firebird shot. And I have Firebirds for that.
Those Swirly Huk PD2's are definitely one of the most OS versions to date. The luster and MF ones are certainly in the same ball park and are honestly too difficult to tell which one is more overstable. The only difference is that the Swirl ones just have a considerable amount of dome compared to the new runs of luster and MF.
Other than the P-Line, G-Line is what will give PD2 throwers the most distance out of the disc. Although it gets kind of floppy in the summer, G-Line will be very useful if you can handle the gummy nature of the disc. The new S-Lines at the moment are fantastic as well.
If you want a less stable luster PD2, seek out the 170-172 ones. Those are what you are looking for. Same thing goes for the metal flakes as well. Those discs in particular are long bombers and are not freakishly overstable. Take my word for it.
Luster made the PD2 a piggy PD2 like the others. And you are right in saying that not all luster molds are made more stable by being made in luster. Two molds that come to mind are the PD and P2. Those discs tended to be a bit less stable in luster and we were happy with that as well.
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The S-Line GM was more of a champy-star plastic that we commonly refer to as hybrid. Though this term came to be much later than this disc was made, it can be combined in to the same phrase. Most GM's were more on the champion side than true S-Line plastic and were only unique to this mold alone. Though our versions of hybrids still differ quite a bit from what the GM was, it provides at least some clarity as to what we are talking about.
What is different about the plastic in the s-line gremlin? It doesn't seem to be your typical s-line to me or anyone I show it too. Also if you could make other molds with that blend I'd be very very happy
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The S-Line GM was more of a champy-star plastic that we commonly refer to as hybrid. Though this term came to be much later than this disc was made, it can be combined in to the same phrase. Most GM's were more on the champion side than true S-Line plastic and were only unique to this mold alone. Though our versions of hybrids still differ quite a bit from what the GM was, it provides at least some clarity as to what we are talking about.
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The dome on the current run of C-PD2 is very mild. Some of the lighter ones are flat-topped the rest of them have a very gentle dome on them. They feel fantastic too.
The dome on the current run of C-PD2 is very mild. Some of the lighter ones are flat-topped the rest of them have a very gentle dome on them. They feel fantastic too.
I usually throw 168's with mild dome. Would I be able to find one of those, and hows the stability of the current run?
racer93
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How can I tell it's a new run of S-line pd2s? Just curious...
booter
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will DM ever produce soft d line p2's like the first runs?
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