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Non-First Run D-P3's are my main putters. I switched from XD's when they went away. I like beadless low profile putters and P3's are the only ones left in the Innova/Discmania line-ups. I honestly think the P3 was a big disappointment for what it was intended- an overstable harp type putt and approach, but it works perfectly for me for putting. I'm going to speculate the P3x or new putter will be even more like the Harp which will be awesome for that slot which the line-ups are missing. Ultimately, I hope there will be intended investment into a beadless low profile putter in a harder Pro plastic. A Pro XD or P3 would be amazing or even something new to compete with the Pure.

Anthony, good point. We had a wonderful version of the P3 originally and unfortunatlely that top no longer exists. We have been on the lookout ever since to find the necessary retooled version that we like best. The current run and version that we released (the ones with the Reinvent Retro logo) are fantastic. They are still not meathooks by any means, but will certainly get the job done for P3 lovers. I highly recommend everyone give it a fair shot.

Is this the current run that is available in the store?

The run of FD that is in the store now are 7th runs and are extremely similar to the previous ones. These are equally as flat as the previous run and just as stable. If we were to nitpick a little, I would say that this new run has only a slightly higher dome but not much.

Interesting discussion happening on the facebooks regarding these P2's - Two school of thoughts:

- Eagle deserves this signature P2 (no one is arguing against that) and the demand for white P2's/To Support eagle is there. Fair amount of excitement for these!

- People wanting DM to figure out stock molds first and then focus on signature molds/special stamps second. The online store has been one of the few places to max weight P2's, s-line PD2s, etc. and newer runs of each mold period. Most of these have a DM store specific stamp or limited stock stamp release. I will attest to the fact that my local stores have slim pickings of the new DM stuff.

Not sure where I stand... I haven't started throwing any of the new DM molds or runs of the discs. I love my old buttery DDs, first run FD's and soft blend of DP2s. However my P2 stack is thinning out and I would love to find max weights in the shop nearby :)

DinosaurThunder, if you would like to see a better selection of DM products in your local stores, have them give us a shout and we will take care of them. We are stocking up on a vast amount of products and retailers will be very pleased with what they find. I agree that stock products are key in growing the sport and growing our brand. Although the specialty image we have built for ourselves has a great base of loyal and enthusiastic customers, those are the people who thrive on special products. Granted, many of them love the stock releases too, but it is the other 90% that needs to be targeted in local stores to give them a better understanding of what we really have to offer. We know that stock releases are a crucial part in extending our reach far beyond our growing, yet small store fan base. That being said, our current Discmaniacs play a big role in spreading the wealth and knowledge of our products too!

I'm on the fence with this too. Nobody know what the working agreement is between DM and Innova, but what I'm willing to bet is that the amount of plastic agreed upon manufacturing is enough for DM to move solely on their own site. If you can only get so much from Innova why wholesale it to other online sites and make a couple bucks a disc when you can sell out of everything at MSRP pricing.

The easy answer is just have Innova run more discs but it's not as simple as that. They have their own production schedule. If it's a choice between running star destroyers or p2s which realistically is going to happen? Frisbee factories don't operate with unlimited resources.

Dehaas good point as well. It can be difficult to juggle production between the two companies but can be done with proper planning. We at Discmania do not have the overhead to support an immense amount of blank and stamped discs. Though our business is growing, it can be a scary decision to double or triple the amount of inventory and not turn it around as fast as we need. Innova is well established and has the capability to make those sorts of risks because they have more liquid funds to plan for the future. All that aside, we are increasing our efforts as the demand grows and can justify the choice to house more stock for both store and wholesale operations. I'll touch briefly on your store vs. wholesale question. Though we could make more money selling 100% of our discs at retail cost, that demand for the store specifically does not exist. Retailers are the key for any company to keep local players happy and get them what they need. In order to grow the sport and a brand as a whole, the primary focus should be on local markets and dealers instead of our own store. We would much rather have a local business thrive on the other side of the company than seek those higher profits just for ourselves. I hope that helps.

Yeah I am willing to bet the the DM % of all discs molded at Innova is not as big as some people may think. Not like they can just tell them to up it.

It just takes proper planning. As mentioned in the statement above, we do not have the overhead to support massive decisions to gamble with too much inventory at the moment. Though we are constantly growing, we also need to be smart with our investments as any company would. I expect you will see quite the influx of options coming in the near future.

And I'm willing to bet a KP2 that the machines at this time of year are running 24/7 molding up discs. There's associated downtime and things, but they are likely turning out plastic day and night.

It's not a question if the discs will sell, it's just scheduling what and when. And the bigger questions of scaling up production with very big and very expensive equipment.

The tough thing is that scheduling part, when we like to complain that these special discs are coming out when there's no stock P2s and such to buy - anywhere.

And then I wonder why they're taking so long to add even more to the plate, with:

S Line CD2 (stock) (Using a S-CD and liking it for almost everything 275-350)
S Line FD2 (stock) (Using Star Teebird - 'cause what's better than that?)
S Line FD3 (stock) (Broke down and bought a swirly Lizotte to throw, just to support Simon)
S Line MD (stock) (Using Star Mako3 and it's buttery good)
S Line MD3 (stock) (Using Star Roc3s but need a Champ because Star is too stright, Ugg)
S Line P1x (Standing offer of $25 to DM to send me a pink one, since it was released)
S Line P3 (stock) (Using either Star Gator or Star Rhyno ATM)

All good points. All of these items will come eventually. As stated in our previous two comments, we need to be smart with our investments and will one day have that luxury of providing all of the options one can imagine. At the same time, no company would benefit in the long run when they put all of their eggs in one basket by releasing all of those products at once. Sure it would be neat at the beginning, but is not a good way to grow a brand and keep excitement alive. One product at a time, one day at a time. Again, all good points though. Keep up the good questions!!
 
I'm also curious on the time table regarding normal production CD3s

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Not sure if white G-line exists...

I know they did a test run with GStar Bosses, so I know the possibility is out there even though I am also assuming that no other molds were given this treatment. I want them because my main set-up is trying to be filled with white discs with black being the secondary color. When I was throwing mainly trilogy, this did not seem to be a problem, but now I am leaning heavily toward Discmania, at least for the drivers. I already have two black G-DDs, but I could not even find a black G-PD.

My secondary bag is all yellow, so I am already covered in regards to G-Line.
 
Color coded people are funny :) But I sure have my own funnities too. Black G-PD should be available in European Masters fundraisers that I see pop up every once in a while in Finland, but not sure about the US market.
 
No answer to my question about understable discs? Nice job, Discmania... :-(

How do the P1, MD, FD, TD, TD2 round out for you? Without a ton of speed the drivers north of speed 10 would likely just cause more harm than good. I expect these 5 discs could carry a person through a whole round.
 
Liking the P3

Just have to give a little props to the P3. Got a couple first runs on a whim and am liking what I'm throwing, I play in a lot of heavily wooded courses and the strong fade and easy distance control are life savers. Never tried Discmania till now and I may be hooked. Can't wait to get my hands on a cd3!!
 
Also have heard mixed reviews. I read already there is a different top on other runs, so where does the first run fit in? Is this the way you intended it to fly or is it more of a proto to work with?
 
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In his Ask Me Anything interview back in December, 2016, Jussi said that several understable discs were in the works. I'm a geezer (64) with lower arm speed, so I would have great interest in these discs. Any timetable on these?

Sorry about missing this one. As people have suggested, we have just what you are looking for in the works at the moment. We have created a fantastic disc that is great for any player and will meet your expectations for sure. Although we cannot release the exact date when this disc will become available, it will be soon. If you have any further questions about this one, please let us know! We will also make sure that this disc is available in lower weights as it is meant for everyone.
 
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How do the P1, MD, FD, TD, TD2 round out for you? Without a ton of speed the drivers north of speed 10 would likely just cause more harm than good. I expect these 5 discs could carry a person through a whole round.

Right you are. For the most part, the general public is not able to throw the faster discs to the full capacity that they are meant for. A smart choice is going with things that are similar to the molds that you have listed above. I would recommend adding a PD, CD2, or our new CD3 to that mix (doesn't need to be all of them) and you will be set.

TDx is supposed to be coming out soon.

As many of you know, the TDx is now approved and will be a great disc for all of our Discmaniacs out there!

Color coded people are funny :) But I sure have my own funnities too. Black G-PD should be available in European Masters fundraisers that I see pop up every once in a while in Finland, but not sure about the US market.

We did have some of the European Masters ones last year but all of those got placed in Mystery boxes so we have none left in the US anymore. At least for our store, that is. I am sure many of the collectors out there have a few of them.

I know they did a test run with GStar Bosses, so I know the possibility is out there even though I am also assuming that no other molds were given this treatment. I want them because my main set-up is trying to be filled with white discs with black being the secondary color. When I was throwing mainly trilogy, this did not seem to be a problem, but now I am leaning heavily toward Discmania, at least for the drivers. I already have two black G-DDs, but I could not even find a black G-PD.

My secondary bag is all yellow, so I am already covered in regards to G-Line.

White is scarce in G-Line. We have seen a few of those white G-Star Bosses pop up and maybe another mold or two at some point but we have never had a single white one here to sell at Discmania of any mold produced. Black is a little more common, but not by much. We stick to most of the primary colors and those end up being the majority of colors that everyone knows of anyway. Black in general is a harder color to come by. Though it can be made, it is a bigger risk to take when it comes to production meaning that no one wants to get stuck with too many of a dark color when the majority of the market prefers brighter colors for ease of play. Though black is a special color, it is obviously hard to find and most players won't end up buying them. Putters will be mainly the only ones produced in black most of the time.

Not sure if white G-line exists...

See the comment above.
I'm also curious on the time table regarding normal production CD3s

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CD3 is coming soon very soon.

I have really become attached to my G-DDs and G-PDs, I would be more than appreciative if there was a way to find white into my hands.

White unfortunately is quite the rarity and we have only seen a few molds be produced in white with very low quantities. Though we have seen them before, not a single disc has passed through our facilities and has been white. We will keep searching….

Confirmed, the new run of s-line pd2 is really nice

We are glad you like them!! This run is fantastic and we are surprised that we haven't sold out of all of them immediately. Get some more while you can!!
 
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well, i see that the Tdx and the Md4 were both approved on the 21st ,when can we can some more info on these bad boys? :)

Unfortunately no more info can be given at this point. Both discs are fantastic and everyone will want to try both of these. Both discs are vastly different from one another and will certainly become staples in your bag.

TDx is what I hear :)

TDx is the one!!!

Also have heard mixed reviews. I read already there is a different top on other runs, so where does the first run fit in? Is this the way you intended it to fly or is it more of a proto to work with?

The first run is likely going to be the most understable version so far. It flies gentle and straight with a soft fade every time. Players that throw with more power may find it to be too understable for what they are looking for. The first run P3 is a great touch upshot disc and will pair nicely with an S or C-Line P2.

Just have to give a little props to the P3. Got a couple first runs on a whim and am liking what I'm throwing, I play in a lot of heavily wooded courses and the strong fade and easy distance control are life savers. Never tried Discmania till now and I may be hooked. Can't wait to get my hands on a cd3!!

Thanks for the helpful feedback! You are exactly right and we are happy that you are pleased with your purchase. We have some big things on the horizon so buckle in and grab some more new releases when they become available!
 
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