These are not kicking out my Outlaws. They are stealing a ton of their shots though. A Ton. I wouldn't be totally shocked if a few months from now I notice that my 12 Outlaws have gathered a lot more dust than I expected, because I already know for a fact these Photons wont have much time for that. They fly super long. They have that slight turn I'd hoped for out of the Tesla, they have that extra Gyro stability even in Fission, and still have a bunch of stability to fight headwinds. Crap I was throwing a 144-5 Fission Photon today 400' into a 20 mph headwind multiple times. This is just about everything I want in a distance driver. I just need to spend more time to get used to lighter weights in my hand, because they sure flew just fine in the air.