ok just saw this and thx booter for the credit! The titanium plastic feels like a mix of gold line and elite z... Its slightly more grippy than current super slick elite z but not grippy like esp. The gold force we got in our players packs is a lot more see through than the silver ones that we were able to buy the day after registration so those might be a special run or something. The Ti buzzz's and ss's are definitely flat! i throw bar stamps because of the flatness and these buzzz's will definitely be making a go at my bag... I got to hold one so I know for fact... I also heard that some of these are firmer and some are a little softer but can't verify that. Only team members have the nukes, buzzz's, and buzzz ss's so far because discraft ran out of this plastic while making them for the memorial and so only "testers" have been given out. and to answer one other question, yes those are UV rattlers in the players packs with the TD's sig in the stamp. 'geddon nukes are esp if that is still being questioned too.