[MVP] MVP Shock

[7ontheline]

I'm still waiting on the Volt and Amp to be old news and pick one up on the cheap in the MP to test. I'm sold on the Ion and I'm liking the N Anode. Are the cores the same depth on the volt and amp, (shallow from what I've read)? If so, I guessing the shock will be too.

 

[plex]

Whoever it was the other day that was ready to renounce his mvp fandom probably feels foolish now

That was me for 1.

And i dont feel foolish at all! i feel releived that i was wrong and MVP is listening to the community, and they are doing more than i imagined!

YES, go MVP.

I am no fanboy however, i throw and recommend discs to people that i like. MVP just happens to be a large portion of that I used to recommend Innova Rocs and Eagles and Teebirds to everyone, when they were more consistent.. now there is something better, so i cannot recommend inferior products to someone, that would be irresponsible.

 

[plex]

1. Not rubber.
2. I've ripped the Volt and Amp as hard as I could into trees no more than 10ft in front of me to test it, and there was barely a scuff.
3. The chemical bond between the core and overmold are so strong MVP took out the "latching system" they used to use in the old old Ions.

People dont even take 5 minutes to go to their website and read about the overmold tech... they want to be hand fed, or they just want to spout fact-less opinions and observations that have no basis in reality.

Glad someone like UPS has the patienct to explain it to ignorant masses.

Also, the overmold is the same plastic, it just has weight agent in it, to make it heavier.. thats the whole point. MORE gyroscopic effect. (now i will be flamed =/)

 

[Kingace]

So it's going to fly like some of the freak over stable volts?

If so I already have a shock.....

 

[plex]

So it's going to fly like some of the freak over stable volts?

If so I already have a shock.....

No, if you read.

"The Shock is our slightly overstable fairway driver. The Shock is a more stable complement to the Volt. With a high power throw, it will hold a long straight line with less turn and immense glide followed by a late dependable fade." - MVP Disc Sports

LESS turn, with a late Fade.

Think Eagle-X

All of my volts turn and come back like an S-curve, unless i hyzer flip at the right power, it can go straight.

Perhaps you dont have the form, release angle, or power to get the disc to fly its intended path?

Some of the early runs are weird though.. so maybe it is a melon

 

[Halcón]

Also, the overmold is the same plastic, it just has weight agent in it, to make it heavier.

The overmold, and cores (Neutron, Proton) are not the same material.

 

[Terry 44]

What if you don't have a "high power throw" and just a respectable throw? What will the shock do? Noodle arms wanna know! Is it possible for MVP to make a disc that can break the speed 9 category with their gyro designs?

Also does this mean the Roc3 will be affordable now?

 

[xJFK]

2. I've ripped the Volt and Amp as hard as I could into trees no more than 10ft in front of me to test it, and there was barely a scuff.

Please stop talking in hyperbole..

It scuffs, and get's dents. It's very durable though. It won't rip away from the disc.

 

[Kingace]

Yea I just don't get releasing a slightly different volt?

I can't stand it when people start saying " the whites or less stable, blacks more over stable"

So confusing?

I feel like my volt is a shock... Because I'm shocked how much it fades lol.

 

[joshuajames]

This is what I have been waiting for from MVP!

The Volt turns too much for me when thrown RHFH.

 

[Monocacy]

I am disappointed in the 168 - 175 gram weight range because I would love to throw some < 160 MVP drivers.

Actually, what I want the most from MVP are 165-6 Anodes, soft or Neutron. Time for a new run!

Please?

 

[Kingace]

This is what I have been waiting for from MVP!

The Volt turns too much for me when thrown RHFH.

Maybe it's your form? Just saying

 

[MrFixIt]

I haven't thrown the Volt yet, but have one on the way.
I have thrown the Amp, and am impressed. When given a full power/good form/clean release throw, it turns slightly right, flattens out and glides a long way. (At least it does for me). I was able to get it out to 375' w/ no problem.
As far as the Shock, I will wait till all the hype simmers down before I try it out. (This will also give me a chance to stock up on soft proton Anodes... *rubs hands w/ evil smile*)

 

[b-mart]

Yeah, I'm strangely indifferent. I don't know anyone who regularly throws the Volt or Amp. My one friend who buys every disc that is released by anyone has both of their drivers, but he doesn't seem to use either one. Being that I love my Ions and Anode and that I've heard good things about other MVP discs, I did buy a Volt yesterday, but it won't arrive for a couple of weeks... I've taken a break from disc buying until the Stag comes out. If that doesn't pan out, I'm sure I can borrow whatever this disc is called that we're talking about and see if I like it.

 

[g2avity]

looked at the MVP site and did comparisons of their drivers. It appears from their disc profile images that they are steadily raising the PLH of the over mold to create stability. looks like the guys at MVP really do their homework.

I noticed this when I was at Gotta Go the other day, talking with one of the store workers. He said that his co-workers could hardly tell the difference between the rims of the Amp and Volt. When compared side by side, they are very similar, the only difference seeming to be the Volt had a higher PLH.

 

[burdphil]

So I have an Ion and an Anode that fly almost exactly the same. I also have a Vector and an Axis that fly very similarly. I didn't bite on the Volt/Amp, but from what I've read there is a lot of overlap between the two. Will this disc actually prove to have a significant difference in flight?

I guess I'm not convinced based on my personal experience that MVP is able to produce enough change between their models by just pushing the overmold up and down on the rim. Am I the only one who feels this way?

 

[thugjitsu]

The volt and amp had no overlap for me. The volt was eagle like to me with not as hard a fade whereas the amp was sidewinderesque.

 

[Kingace]

The volt and amp had no overlap for me. The volt was eagle like to me with not as hard a fade whereas the amp was sidewinderesque.

I thought the shock was supposed to be eagle-like?

 

[moorent]

I thought the shock was supposed to be eagle-like?

you must have missed the part where he said "for me"

 

[Toro71]

There may be some more "in the know" folks w/r/t MVP on here, so chime in of course, but something I've kind of pieced together that is important for you if you're thinking about trying MVP, especially maybe their drivers.

I have a 176g Volt. It flies a skinny S curve for me, skinnier than a Beast, at least, when thrown hard and flat. A few testers, early buyers, with apparently more power than me, have said similar things about their max-wt Volts, but that they couldn't get a 170g one to flip up at all.

The theory that the "gyro" technology does this rings true. I.E. the heavier weights have all that added wieght on the outer edge, so they spin faster/longer, so they turn over/glide more. I'm buying this theory so far.

So, that would mean that the classic thought of "well, I don't have the power this guy does, so if I get a Volt in the lighter weight, it will fly this way for me" may not hold water. Or, to the poster looking for a more OS Volt for FH, maybe the counterintuitive move of going lighter instead of heavier might be what you're looking for...or of course this new Shock...

Every MVP disc that I'm messing around with right now seems to be MUCH more spin dependent than forward vel/arm speed dependent.