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Maybe it was part of a secret experiment? ;-)
Oh boy a conspiracy about the groove lol
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Maybe it was part of a secret experiment? ;-)
What pisses me off about Discs such as the Groove is how they were mass-produced and marketed to freaking beginners walking past them at large retail chains. No beginner should have something harder to throw than something like a Stratus or Stingray as their first Disc, and yet there are high-speed drivers galore in these racks that require a pro arm to make them do what they're designed to do. It's awful for the sport. The kinds of players who can throw a Boss right are a slim percentage of the sport's population. They are typically experts on the game and aren't going to be buying them from Dick's Sporting Goods anyway, more likely from their local clubs or through the mail or whatever. I just can't understand why the big companies load up these displays with Discs that are going to frustrate most new players.
Your point that beginners and noobs should throw Stratii and Stingrays is perfectly correct.
Trouble is, that young buck that sees himself as the second coming of Tarzan is going to pick up the fastest, coolest-looking disc he can find.
Innova or Discraft or Lat64 or anyone else who can get a disc on a retail display is going to sell whatever the customer buys.
And if the retail store sells and re-orders Grooves, Innova will oblige.
I wouldn't be too hard on the disc mfr.
They are simply selling what sells.
Generally disagree. The people buying at the retail stores tend to be new to the game. They don't realize the atrocity that the Groove is. Buyers for the stores also don't realize how bad the Groove is, and how damaging it is to get people to stay with the game. I blame Innova for pushing the Groove onto these stores in order to get rid of them.
What pisses me off about Discs such as the Groove is how they were mass-produced and marketed to freaking beginners walking past them at large retail chains. No beginner should have something harder to throw than something like a Stratus or Stingray as their first Disc, and yet there are high-speed drivers galore in these racks that require a pro arm to make them do what they're designed to do. It's awful for the sport. The kinds of players who can throw a Boss right are a slim percentage of the sport's population. They are typically experts on the game and aren't going to be buying them from Dick's Sporting Goods anyway, more likely from their local clubs or through the mail or whatever. I just can't understand why the big companies load up these displays with Discs that are going to frustrate most new players.
What's the last disc Trilogy came out with?
I was thinking about these, which may be worse than the Halex/Helix.
The mid and driver there are the two worst discs I've ever thrown. I watched some of that Wal-mart Franklin discs video and they pretty much fly identical to those. The putter wasn't half-bad though. It flew kinda like an Aviar.[/
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There's some entertainment value in this video (Walmart Disc Challenge):
In that video the putter gets used more and more for driving. They would better only sell the putter.
Oh boy a conspiracy about the groove lol
How else you gonna explain it?