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2019 Pros Switching Sponsors Official Thread

I was saying they look like a Discraft plastic. Almost like a Swirly ESP. Maybe Discraft did one small run, specifically for Paul. I don't know what the cost would be, so I could be off on that. But, maybe they had just finished a run of Forces and then for the last little bit they switched the plastic to a new blend, or added something to the plastic for the Forces.

Just some random thoughts. GMcAtee, is this, or something along those lines, even possible? Even if it lost a little money, just to test something.

It actually saves money to create those swirly discs. It's just two different colored resins and not using any purge material in between those two color runs. So, you'll get a few swirly looking parts. We actually had two door handles for a Lexus made that way yesterday. All of us in quality play disc golf and laughed when we discovered it. Molding tried to lie to us about how they were created. Someone just got lazy.

Another easy way to create some funky stuff: Most of our colored resin is clear with a very small percentage of color pellets included. Just add another small amount of a different colored resin pellet in there.

Don't get me started on regrind. I've seen it all in quality. Reground black components that someone failed to remove the orange clips. Looks pretty cool with random orange streaks, but is a defect in my line of work.
 
If you're a casual player, you can probably throw anything and score roughly the same. If you're a top tier player, you can probably throw anything and score roughly the same. For the middling middle, disc familiarity probably makes a much bigger difference. It's a razor thin line between bogey and birdie and you need a disc you trust.
 
I can't believe people are calling into question Drew Gibson's character. I'm pretty sure that I've heard the CCDG guys refer to Drew as "super chill" or something stupid Californians say about likable chaps. Although now that I think about it, Ian and Cory seem to say something positive about every pro they film. Hmm. :\
 
For all you "discs don't matter, it's the archer not the arrow" people, think about this: if archery companies had the same tolerances in manufacturing arrows that disc manufacturers have, the best archer in the world wouldn't be able to hit the broad side of a barn. Just think about people searching sporting goods stores for particular "good runs" of arrows. "Remember that one run Matthews did in 2003? Those were ALMOST straight! I mean, you only had to correct for the curve by like 3 feet or so with those. Amazing!" "I had this one arrow that I beat in to the perfect corkscrew so it would fly a little circle before hitting 5 feet to the left of where I was aiming. It was great!"

What I'm trying to say is, the archery analogy is flawed and breaks down very quickly when examined. Of COURSE in archery, the archer is infinitely more important than the arrows. That's because every professional level arrow is manufactured to be perfectly straight. As long as the arrow is straight and fletched correctly and has the right head on it, it will fly the way the archer expects every time, so it's all on the archer to get the shot right. Same thing with balls in ball golf. Professional golfers aren't worried about pulling out a ball that doesn't roll straight in a tournament. I don't know of any other sport than disc golf where the specific run and wear level on the equipment in use even at the pro level has such a huge impact on the outcome. You only ever know how an individual disc will fly when you throw that disc, and that flight could change after a single impact.

That's one reason our sport is so difficult and also interesting. Can you imagine what DG tournaments would look like if every golfer was given the EXACT same set of 7 discs that were manufactured to meet very small tolerances? What if they were given a new disc after every drive to replace the one they had just driven so that wear was not an issue? Then disc golf might actually resemble most other professional sports where every player is on pretty much equal footing equipment-wise. Then the archer/arrow analogy might actually make sense.

A Few Sports that tolerances are not as good.

Baseball/Softball and Rounders is the two sports where say a bat can be different from bat to bat if using a traditional non composite wood bat simply due to using a once live object that growing conditions have an effect on.

Ice Hockey if using all wood traditional sticks they can feel slightly different from run to run for the same reasons that Baseball/Softball and Rounders traditional wood bats do though for hockey sticks the effect is not as bad as the three Bat stick sports.

Tennis the racket was once wood, same for Squash and they had variance in the wood same reasons as the other sports and just as much if not more for that then Ice Hockey, but since the 1980's when aluminum was then used for the better rackets the tolerance for a racket went way down.

these are the most played sports that use or did use wood for the equipment, not sure about how a Cricket bat is made but it could be wood too and that would make it so the bat has tolerances as well. Cricket is a highly played sport due to India/Sri Lanka playing it.

Now in most other sports the tolerance for the equipment is high enough that switching does not have much effect on a player unless that company dose not make a style similar to the equipment they were using. Even sports that use plastic equipment like some hocky sticks.


In the wood used for those sports If using the more traditional type however, you will have the bat or stick in ice hockey feeling the same due to most of them being machine made with strict tolerances, what is different is how the ball reacts to the bat or stick in hockey, some will have more spring then others and then how the bat or stick in hockey swings in the air, some might swing odd due to how stiff or how flexible the wood is simply due to how it grew.
 
Hey, does anyone know what thread I can go to for discussion on which pros are switching sponsorships this offseason? I can only find one on archery, disc consistency, metallurgy, dong wagging, Drew Gibson douchery (can I say that here?), and jeez I know there's more but I'm losing track
 
Hey, does anyone know what thread I can go to for discussion on which pros are switching sponsorships this offseason? I can only find one on archery, disc consistency, metallurgy, dong wagging, Drew Gibson douchery (can I say that here?), and jeez I know there's more but I'm losing track

https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/

Okay, what are wagging at next?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that interview filmed before the announcement?

Last day of Monster on the Mountain - OCT 28, Announcement - OCT 31

Discs don't matter? Time to throw everything away and rebuild my bag around the Groove and the Wolf

Indeed you are correct sir, I beg your pardon...a thousand pardons.
 
I can't believe people are calling into question Drew Gibson's character. I'm pretty sure that I've heard the CCDG guys refer to Drew as "super chill" or something stupid Californians say about likable chaps. Although now that I think about it, Ian and Cory seem to say something positive about every pro they film. Hmm. :\

I think someone commented something like this on one of their videos: "Ah, Usama Bin Laden, such a cool dude man, one of the nicest guys you'll find in terrorism, hands down"
 
Yes but once Innova started producing their own backpacks he switched. I bet he can't wait to use a Grip again.

Assuming the Discraft move: Yeah Grip does make Discraft edition bags but I had seen on a thread a while back that the Upper Park Design guy holds a marketing position with Discraft. Might be carrying a Rebel next year.
 

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