DGPT: 2021 MVP Open at Maple Hill Sept 3-5

[brutalbrutus]

Is anyone else's stream crashed? I just went to turn it on and it says off air?...

 

[Jolt]

And Paige goes 2xOB on hole 8 again. . .

 

[biscoe]

I have liked the idea of retroactively calling something a provisional throw for cases like this. But, wow, try to write a rule that would 1. allow this, 2. not allow willy-nilly throws, AND 3. be understandable.

If you were on his card the sporstmanshipy thing to do would have been to suggest he call that throw a provisional (before he made the throw). If he refused and went on to take the penalties, that's on him.

Retroactive provisional= hard no.

Players should probably familiarize themselves with the rules of the game they play for a living.

 

[nothinbuttree]

Retroactive provisional= hard no.

Players should probably familiarize themselves with the rules of the game they play for a living.

I feel bad for players in situations like this, but I do agree. Unless the entire card is sure from the tee that a particular thing happened, then that's exactly what provisionals are for. For uncertainties. I didn't see the throw in question, but I have played the hole. The splash it pretty easy to see. I know. If there is any doubt, it's not that far of a walk, not like hole 8.

Also, experience is the best teacher. He is young. He will remember this, and it may come in handy during some future big event, which I do feel he will be in contention for very soon. He seems like he already has the toughest skill to acquire--composure under pressure.

 

[brutalbrutus]

Got to be a vid of Hailey's ace out there somewhere?...

 

[teemkey]

Retroactive provisional= hard no.

Players should probably familiarize themselves with the rules of the game they play for a living.

He may well know the rules require calling the provisional before it's thrown. The problem is that the spotter waved the red flag, and the rules only permit the player's group and tournament officials to impose an OB penalty (though it's not stated directly, and spotters are right 99.9% of the time).

If there's a lesson to be learned, it's a tactical one: call a provisional when the penalty conditions have yet to be confirmed by the proper authorities.

 

[R-Ogre]

He may well know the rules require calling the provisional before it's thrown. The problem is that the spotter waved the red flag, and the rules only permit the player's group and tournament officials to impose an OB penalty (though it's not stated directly, and spotters are right 99.9% of the time).

If there's a lesson to be learned, it's a tactical one: call a provisional when the penalty conditions have yet to be confirmed by the proper authorities.

Haven't watched, so the spotter called him OB on a tricky lie that ultimately was determined to be in? Kind of a sucky situation for him.

 

[BogeyNoMore]

Tiger Borth used to play in the Motor City Chain gang.
Hope she has a good final round. Would love to see her finish in the top 10.

 

[biscoe]

If there's a lesson to be learned, it's a tactical one: call a provisional when the penalty conditions have yet to be confirmed by the proper authorities.

I would imagine they will all be calling provisionals repeatedly at this point. Why the OB is set up that way in relation to the wall is a good question as well...

 

[nothinbuttree]

Why does it seem the most controversial OB calls or other rules violations are at THIS event?

Curious if the caddie book shows you can be behind the wall but inbounds somehow...

 

[Steve West]

Why does it seem the most controversial OB calls or other rules violations are at THIS event?

Curious if the caddie book shows you can be behind the wall but inbounds somehow...

The hole map says:

OB: Water (marked by string)

Most events have gotten away from using the wall as the actual OB line.

 

[gammaxgoblin]

That floating BIRDIE thing on hole 16 moves it position from throw to throw and while its OB it could change the ability to skip onto land from player to player....is that okay?

 

[ru4por]

That floating BIRDIE thing on hole 16 moves it position from throw to throw and while its OB it could change the ability to skip onto land from player to player....is that okay?

You mean, like a branch?

 

[txmxer]

Haven't watched, so the spotter called him OB on a tricky lie that ultimately was determined to be in? Kind of a sucky situation for him.

It did suck hard.

He would have needed to have walked to the green to verify his lie was OB.

Kind of like McBeth last year on 8 and called a provisional.

 

[brutalbrutus]

That floating BIRDIE thing on hole 16 moves it position from throw to throw and while its OB it could change the ability to skip onto land from player to player....is that okay?

If you throw a shot and it hits that thing, then you should have thrown a better shot.

 

[Cgkdisc]

That floating BIRDIE thing on hole 16 moves it position from throw to throw and while its OB it could change the ability to skip onto land from player to player....is that okay?

If the floaters are considered part of the course, shouldn't you be able to return them to their "official" position (wherever that may be per the caddie book) before throwing per 803.01 3.B.

It's an interesting scenario because the water is an OB area. Would it be different if the water was inbounds (casual)? Or, what if you had several robot platforms like Roombas with advertising feather banners mounted on them randomly moving around in open fairways to provide more challenges.

These are modern versions of windmills. BTW, I'm not necessarily against testing these ideas to add additional interest and challenge to the game. But would these elements be appropriate and/or legal under the current environment and competition rules?

 

[BogeyNoMore]

Shout out to local, Tiger Borth, playing way above her rating for a top 5 finish in a DGPT Elite event. :hfive:

 

[brutalbrutus]

 

[Jimb]

The raised arm reaction is nice to see from Calvin. I wish that someone would have had a camera on his face, too, though.

The "thumbnail" shows it but it's not in the video.

 

[elmexdela]

minute 40 video for like 5-10 sec worth of content with no replay

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