Technohic Drive Critique (Video)

[Technohic]

Been spiraling downhil and I think a lot of it is self diagnosis, and I've never even seen myself throw until now.

Sorry in advance for crappy Blackberry quality.



What I threw:
Core: 285'
Yellow River: 340'
Pink River: 290'
Beat Valk: 275'
Stingray: 290'

The way the yellow River flew was typical a couple of months ago. Then, I havent been able to get to the bigger course but once since and it has sparked some frustration as you see the other results like witht he pink River and the Valk, which is beat and I was struggling getting it straight but it did have the longest of my field work going past my 350' marker which is as far as I went. Its just too much of a pain keeping it from crashing and burning. I have 2 new pros on the way.

Stingray was most consistent of any of them today seemingly to be right at 300' 90% of the time. It kicked all my other discs asses overall for the day.

Anyway, fire away with the critique.

 

[CwAlbino]

Your armspeed is pretty fast, but you aren't getting your body into it much. You are getting your body turned it looks like, but not really getting weight transfer into it. Release looked early on a few of those, and your reachback is minimal. I'll post up some pics in a minute, gotta find em.

 

[Technohic]

Yeah, for some reason I can walk through weight transfer when I dont have a disc but its not been translating well.

 

[CwAlbino]

Here's me

Full reachback, already starting to come through

Release, body position forward

I'm gonna make a .gif of a few photos that i'll upload. The base pictures are here: http://s395.photobucket.com/albums/pp31/Cadagan/Disc Golf/

I worked with him all summer and he's improved dramatically. The photos area great though for showing reachback, hit, and weight transfer.

 

[CwAlbino]

 

[Mike C]

Body rotation, body rotation, body rotation. You need to turn your hips and shoulders more if you want more distance.

Try to get your weight forward more on your front foot as you come into the throw, and follow through more. Looks like you kind of stop yourself with your rear leg instead of letting it come off the ground.

Something else that might be worth trying to help you get more body rotation is reach back further then pull through on a straight line.

 

[CwAlbino]

Try to work on reaching back all the way, and on the one line you need to be on. I teach it from a standstill first. Put your arm at your hit, pointing toward your target. Then turn your back to the target and put your arm in a full reachback, which should be in a straight line with the hit. The .gifs should help to show what I mean, especially the first and second for the reachback. Hard part about it after that is getting weight forward and transferred.

 

[Technohic]

Reach back is something I have toyed around with but I need to get the timing right. I think field work like this would be a good time.

Watching the videos, you are right. Im not getting my weight shifted. In fact, it looks like my back legs wanting to come forward and I pull it back. A little reverse pivot.

Also, never realised I grab the back of the disc with my off hand on the reach back. I need to stick that hand in a pocket.

The first Core throw and the 3rd throw which is the pink River, they both definately came out early.

 

[Technohic]

Those are great pics CW.

Thanks for the help guys. I gotta get ready for my sons birthday party at Chuck E Cheese (taking Advil before I even get there) but I will check in later if anyone else has anything.

 

[agent_peebody]

is this Bruce Lee?

 

[CwAlbino]

is this Bruce Lee?

No it's his nephew

 

[BrotherDave]

You've got some work to do. Because of your rotation (lack of) and minimal reach back, you're arcing the disc a lot instead of pulling it through nice and straight. That's what's causing those early and late releases. I think you're pulling too early also but it's hard to tell b/c your form is so compact compared to the Asian dude CW gif'ed above. It looked like your pull was pretty low all the way through, which would be okay if you were going the Feldberg hop-pivot route except you're not.

Here's a nice vid the Finns at DGR showed me, it's Jussi huking some Ions really far (over 400').

 

[kinfolkfan]

Elbow is being kept to close to the body. Unlike forehand you do not need to keep elbow close.

And use your body a bit more. But I really think if you get your arm straightened out you will get more leverage.

 

[Jax11]

I am no form expect, but I looked at the Yellow and Pink River back and forth a lot. I felt like the Yellow you got your weight forward successfully. The Pink River you seemed to be throwing over your front foot, and thus tried to use your arm to compensate.

I used to struggle with this from time to time, and I found the biggest problem when I didn't get weight forward I was trying to "Aim" my shot exactly where I wanted it instead of just trusting my body and "throwing" the disc. So my best advice is to stop thinking so much and rip it, you body knows how to do it.

 

[jubuttib]

Good points all-around, I might add the lack of a good follow through to that list. Also, if you really want to transfer power to the disc, you need to grip it as tight as you can at the hit. Not before that though, that'll just tense you up and mess up your timing.

 

[dodgeball]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but u need to work on your footwork! You have a bit of an odd pattern where u start off with your left foot behind, do a little hop and then shoot. The little hop is fine, but I would recommend a medium or big step with the right foot, just to get your momentum going forward. And if ur going to do an x-step at all, u need to do it like u mean it! Watch the videos of the pros. When they're doing an x-step, they're usually going for good distance and go at it aggressively. Others have mentioned a lack of reachback, but I would disagree. Your basic stroke looks pretty smooth actually, and a lot of people do fine without a big reachback. Going back your rotation is good too, but u need to finish your rotation when ur coming through. You should be rotated at least as much when u finish as when u start. HTH

 

[Apothecary]

i cant give you a drive critique until i give you a style critique:

lose the bowl-cut.:\

 

[agent_peebody]

i had a bull cut in elementary school. i rocked it so hard.

 

[Technohic]

i cant give you a drive critique until i give you a style critique:

lose the bowl-cut.:\

I havv ebigger issues than hair I would think. I weigh about 100 lbs more than I did when I first started seeing my fiance 10 years ago, and boy does it show with the camera like that.

Its not really a bowl cut though. I didnt comb my hair or anything before going out and its just been growing for winter. It does kind of look bad though; doesnt it?

 

[agent_peebody]

what kind of blackberry did you film that on? i have a Bold and might try to film myself if it works.