Dave's been hinting at it on FB and the PDGA forums... Just saw this
http://proshop.innovadiscs.com/factory-second-blizzard-champion-boss.html
http://proshop.innovadiscs.com/factory-second-blizzard-champion-boss.html
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booter
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yea i saw this on fb. they actually look sweet. i guess they finally made progress from the bubble boss's a while back
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Blizzards are only high speed stuff. BOO!!!
Blizzards are only high speed stuff. BOO!!!
I'm having a difficult time believing the flight characteristics are the same. For discs I like I tend to carry a 162 and 172 if I can and those weights fly quite differently. Of course, this is in Star and Pro plastic, not in Champ.
wonder if timg has already added it to the bag section 
booter
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theyre doing this because wide rim drivers are hard to get in low weights and still be in premium plastics. slower stuff is easier to make in lower weights,which is why there are already 150 class versions of slower speed stuff unlike wide rim drivers hence the blizzard technology
Dsplayname
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I asked Innova if this will be the first floating champ line. Waiting on reply.
LeewayeDiscGolf
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Just saw this on FB as well. Is the flight plate just filled with lots of tiny bubbles to keep the weight down? More weight is concentrated to the rim of the disc?
Dsplayname
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D Visions - Interesting idea with the gas bubbles trapped in the plastic. I guess the biggest question is, is this a first look at floating champion discs? That would be awesome. And also, can you combine the sparkle/glitter with the bubbles, or make Blizchamp glow discs? Those would be pretty nice too.
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im not positive the flight will be duplicated, but if it flies somewhat the same it would be cool. i dont throw bosses, but a 150champ that flies similiar to a max weight champ as opposed to an r-pro 150, it could make the bag for absolute max-D at some point (wind permitting). anyone else kinda feel the same way or am i crazy..
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ian.
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i dont really throw stuff thats not already offered in low weights but im glad to see it! .. a 150g Champ Wraith or Katana might be up my alley tho
It seems like they must have found a new material. The problem with light discs has always been that they were simply made of less plastic, not only by weight, but by volume. Since flight plates are already so thin even on heavy discs, when they take weight away it comes disproportionally from the outside rim of the disc. This results in lighter discs being less gyroscopic than their heavy counterparts in most cases. Hopefully they have found a solution to this, because I think lightweight discs have HUGE potential that is largely untapped due to the molding issues.
booter
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completely different . they dont even use it anymore either
LeewayeDiscGolf
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Kinda crazy to release DX Bosses and them follow them up with Champ Bosses in low weights. Seems like two discs filling one slot.
With that said however, we'll have to see if these fly as stated or not and how they hold up compared to regular Champ. I'm wondering if they'll seem gummy or floppy?
I know that this is completely different than the starlight.
Dave D asked about players' interest in lightweight champ discs in his PDGA thread. And it looks to be something he would really like to push if there is enough interest. One of his posts:
I guess I could have asked the question a little differently. One thing I want to know is if people are interested or know of others who would be interested in light weight Champion long range drivers. The other question would be probably a little trickier as people might not have an idea of what weight is actually best for them until they try. But that question is: what weight do you think would work best for you?
The fact of the matter is that we are able, (with some difficultly), to make virtually any weight Boss, Destroyer, Katana, etc. in Champion down to about 110 gms. If we bother to go to the research time and expense, will disc golf respond to this new product or will they continue to follow the mantra of "heavier is better".
Personally, I have tried every weight there is in our long range drivers and find that I am getting better results with 150 gms than I was with 170 gms. As a side note: I had Bobby Musick try a 155 and 157 gm Boss at La Mirada last weekend and he was not only able to throw it immediately, but he threw it better than he threw his heavies. He was just as accurate, but longer.
So far, I can only see three disadvantages and at least four advantages. The disadvantages are: they don't penetrate leaves and other foliage as well, they don't forgive poor throwing (flutter) as well, they may not be as good in the wind, (although this has not been shown yet). So far, any wind disadvantage seems to be tied to flutter. And, also tied to flutter is that they don't work as well for side arms because it is too easy to flutter.
The advantages I see are: they are much easier to whip, they carry farther, they make my bag lighter when I have several, they do well with hitting trees as they don't seem to taco as much, they seem to have a little less low speed overstability. Subjectively, they are more fun and I don't seem to get as tired.
I guess I could have asked the question a little differently. One thing I want to know is if people are interested or know of others who would be interested in light weight Champion long range drivers. The other question would be probably a little trickier as people might not have an idea of what weight is actually best for them until they try. But that question is: what weight do you think would work best for you?
The fact of the matter is that we are able, (with some difficultly), to make virtually any weight Boss, Destroyer, Katana, etc. in Champion down to about 110 gms. If we bother to go to the research time and expense, will disc golf respond to this new product or will they continue to follow the mantra of "heavier is better".
Personally, I have tried every weight there is in our long range drivers and find that I am getting better results with 150 gms than I was with 170 gms. As a side note: I had Bobby Musick try a 155 and 157 gm Boss at La Mirada last weekend and he was not only able to throw it immediately, but he threw it better than he threw his heavies. He was just as accurate, but longer.
So far, I can only see three disadvantages and at least four advantages. The disadvantages are: they don't penetrate leaves and other foliage as well, they don't forgive poor throwing (flutter) as well, they may not be as good in the wind, (although this has not been shown yet). So far, any wind disadvantage seems to be tied to flutter. And, also tied to flutter is that they don't work as well for side arms because it is too easy to flutter.
The advantages I see are: they are much easier to whip, they carry farther, they make my bag lighter when I have several, they do well with hitting trees as they don't seem to taco as much, they seem to have a little less low speed overstability. Subjectively, they are more fun and I don't seem to get as tired.
Dsplayname
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If somebody gets one and confirms that it floats, I'd consider buying one. The only Innova I currently throw is a Echo Archon though.
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