I got one of these in my NCDGC players pack and I've been loving this disc as my slower Firebird/more OS Harp and Roc3 role. Backhands the thing just dives to the left, but I usually throw Roc3's for Backhands. However, it's the perfect forehand mid for me. I can work huge flex lines on tight approaches that come back, and get shallower skip shots for those slightly off-placed second shots. I just need to work the backhand out a bit more and this thing will definitely be in my bag for the foreseeable future.