I found that flat s lines are less hss and get squirrelly as they break in while the domier ones have more hss and lss and keep their stability longer and wear more gradually without the sharp change in stability.
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I found that flat s lines are less hss and get squirrelly as they break in while the domier ones have more hss and lss and keep their stability longer and wear more gradually without the sharp change in stability.
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oops, missed this post. well i guess late is better than never, especially since now I have a few more months of throwing FDs to let them sink in.
I throw the super stiff and flat 2nd runs, light green and 175g to be exact. Typical unrestricted distance ranging between 320 and 380, more than that is PD territory.
If i was being a real stickler, I'd give my new CFDs a 7|4.5|-.2|2.25 rating. Next to no high speed turn, just barely a hint of a rock-up early out of the hand, but they still fight to get back towards the left (RHBH). My new SPDs act more like a 9.5|5|.5|3. I should state for comparison's sake that I have a beaten in SFD that acts like a 7|7|-3|.5 and it is crazy long.
Thrown identically, the CFD only gets maybe 75 percent of the distance as my SPD. PDs want to fade more nose down/neutral but CFDs will go nose up, and SFDs behave nothing like the CFDs during their minimal fade.
Overall, I'd say that PDs are more of a power driver (go figure, right?) whereas FDs are speed-sensitive and like more finesse. This makes them a very, very good pairing.
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I'm pretty sure discgolfvalues has them. I'd give them a call.
Lurp Nuts
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bump for being bored enough to read all 664 posts in one sitting.
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heh. 
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Ordered a pair of 165 FD Jackals, a flat C and a domey S. Squeezed in a few field tosses after work, and both discs performed as advertised. The domey SFD is straight and sneaky-long (closer to a River), and the flat CFD is beefy and considerably shorter. Looking forward to throwing the FDs on the course this weekend.
Are the domey CFDs closer to the SFDs, or are all the CFDs pretty beefy? In other words, does dome or plastic determine how the FD flies? I'm not sure that the flat CFD has a place in my bag, but I would love a slightly-more-stable version of the domey SFD in C plastic.
Are the domey CFDs closer to the SFDs, or are all the CFDs pretty beefy? In other words, does dome or plastic determine how the FD flies? I'm not sure that the flat CFD has a place in my bag, but I would love a slightly-more-stable version of the domey SFD in C plastic.
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in my experience, the domey cFDs fly like new, domey sFDs. It's the flat cFDs that are more high speed stable and less glidey. I don't like how the flat sFDs fly at all, so I don't carry any of those.
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Victor - thank you! Sounds like I need to confirm dome when ordering FDs. I agree with you about the flat sFDs - not what I am looking for.
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what's up with the flat SFDs? how do they fly compared to the domies?
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More stable, less glide, shorter. Didn't do anything for me, but I have heard of some folks pairing a flat C-FD with a domey S-FD.
Lurp Nuts
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that's my combination right now. one flat c-line, and two domey s-lines, one beaten in that has become a turnover king.
if the flatter s-lines are more stable, i might be in. just have to find em is all.
onemilemore
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Maybe that is the issue with my S-Line. I was throwing it this weekend and felt like I had to work really hard to get it to flip. It is almost as flat as my C, though. Hoping the S I have on order is of the domey variety.
whentherainscome
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There's a scant few VERY light F2 C-FD's in the Factory Store. 135-139, 145-149 and 150-155. Less than 5 of each.
The dome/stability on these is unknown.
The dome/stability on these is unknown.
whentherainscome
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Anyone throw the F2's yet? Are they the flat, stiff run or from a third run/the Lizotte signature run?
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i had an s-fd that i used quite a bit until the f7 kicked it out of the bag
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I never play a wooded course without one.
Just waiting on 3rd runs to get around so I can all excited again.
