Should PDGA change MPO to MPD?

[Tacoma_Tom]

Now that the PDGA has instituted a Ratings Minimum For Open Division At PDGA Majors, Elite Series In 2020 should they also change the name from MPO to Men's Pro Division or something else since it is no longer a truly open division?

https://www.pdga.com/announcements/ratings-minimum-established-open-division-pdga-majors-elite-series-2020

 

[dreadlock86]

no, because it's still open

 

[numbernine]

I don't care if they call it "Disc Golf Fun Time ". I know it's Open. You know what it is.
Imma be over here playing Am Masters and hoping I can NOT put a 995 and a 915 rated round together in the same tournament, as per my usual.

 

[ShopTom.com]

There are no men's divisions.

 

[elmexdela]

There are no men's divisions.

people not even knowing what they are fully complaining about

lololol

 

[Big Nasty]

meh. its arguing semantics. who cares.

 

[F. Howl]

Now that the PDGA has instituted a Ratings Minimum For Open Division At PDGA Majors, Elite Series In 2020 should they also change the name from MPO to Men's Pro Division or something else since it is no longer a truly open division?

https://www.pdga.com/announcements/ratings-minimum-established-open-division-pdga-majors-elite-series-2020

The "M" stands for Mixed.

 

[BryanBowman]

it's mixed professional open, not men's or male.

 

[ballgolfconvert]

Open means open to those who qualify. It doesn't mean anyone can play. Every sport has rules on who is eligible to play Open. It generally means only those who have proven their ability to compete.

 

[Jay Dub]

US Open (PGA) is open to anyone...who qualifies.
To qualify you must have a 1.4 or better handicap.

I know this isn't PGA and we shouldn't try to imitate them but I did anyway.

 

[cheesethin]

An Open in sports terminology refers to a sporting event or game tournament that is open to contestants regardless of their professional or amateur status, age, ability, gender, sex, or other categorization. In many sports, preliminary qualifying events, open to all entrants, are held to successively reduce the field to a manageable number for participation in a final championship event, which itself may involve elimination rounds (tournaments).

The term 'Open' may not be absolute. For example, in the U.S. Open in golf, entrants at qualifying events must have a USGA official handicap of 1.4 or less. Other minimum performance standards or eligibility criteria may apply in other sports.

Opens are usually found in golf, tennis, bowling, badminton, quizbowl, fighting games, snooker, darts, volleyball, ultimate, squash, CrossFit and chess.

Wikipedia

 

[Cgkdisc]

If anything maybe change to MP9 representing the 900 rating minimum similar to how MP40 indicates the 40 year old minimum.

 

[cheesethin]

Missed window.

So my guess is that when you have enough people playing a sport so that the range of abilities is large, you have to then start qualifying all of your elite 'open' events in some manner, otherwise they will be oversubscribed.

Not truly open-open, more semi-open. I personally don't feel the nomenclature of sporting events is critical to the event.

I'm going to run an Invitational Masters Open... you know... for kids.

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[DavidSauls]

Open means open to those who qualify. It doesn't mean anyone can play. Every sport has rules on who is eligible to play Open. It generally means only those who have proven their ability to compete.

This, with the observation that anyone is allowed to shoot over 900, and earn that rating.

The other status limitations (age, gender) either can't be changed, or can only be changed with extreme measures. A 900 rating available to anyone.

 

[R-Ogre]

A 900 rating available to anyone.

Clearly you've never played with me.

 

[DavidSauls]

Clearly you've never played with me.

I was afraid someone would call me on it, and challenge me to demonstrate how to do it.

At any rate, there's nothing on my birth certificate keeping me under 900 (though I like the claim that the "date issued" part is at least partly to blame). Most of the problem seems to be in my arm, or in my head.

 

[Casey 1988]

National Tour events have no rating yet right?

this is just for Majors and Pro Tour right?

 

[Orioles_Lefty]

As an 894-rated player, I'd hate to imagine I'm minor improvement away from soiling a major tournament. Floor should probably be 950.

 

[Steve West]

If anything maybe change to MP9 representing the 900 rating minimum similar to how MP40 indicates the 40 year old minimum.

Wouldn't MP9 be for 9 year old pros?

Almost as ridiculous would be using Roman numerals to get MPCM.

But seriously, the division hasn't changed, just a few events exclude some of the players in that division.

And again, this is all because of the false dichotomy of taking cash vs. not taking cash. Why not let all divisions play for any prizes they want, and base the splits on skill, age, and sex?

 

[mizunodave]

If we are talking about renaming divisions, I feel very strongly that Novice should be renamed Casual. Novice sounds degrading to someone who has played for a couple of years even if they are still only 820 rated. Simply changing the name will significantly increase participation in that division and will improve the spread of players throughout all divisions.