Stringbean
Birdie Member
How does that thing fly? Is it still an overstable monster? Any different than the proto?
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Vibram Discs (don't get caught without your rubber)
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Vegan Ray
Banned
Way different. Not much more overstable than a Lace, if any. They're re-tooling again to make more overstable before general release.
Stringbean
Birdie Member
Just the proto version from a year ago. Way too overstable for me to make any use of it. But I only throw around the 350 range.
really looking at going all in with vibram. i am hosting a birdie bash at the begining of may so i picked up one of the sample packs and have been playing with nothing but vibram since the last week in march. there are certan slots that they don't have covered yet with there line up but i have been able to make do playing more with release angles. Looking forward to trying the four 20.
Stringbean
Birdie Member
money 21 said:
Sounds like they will have a new mold out to testers by the end of the year. More than likely a mid or fairway to start rounding out their 16 mold lineup. I am hoping they expand that to 20 molds with a 4-pack of speed 10-11 drivers. Wish they would have started with speed 10 instead of speed 13.
PMantle1
Eagle Member
Since I've never thrown Vibram other than a Summit, and I don't really understand their ratings, is there a general statement on their molds re: glide? Are any of the molds particularly glidey?
Stringbean
Birdie Member
I've never taken the time to figure out their ratings either. Out of their putters, the Sole has the most glide. The unLace has a lot of glide for a speed 13/14 disc. Ibex glides pretty well but only in a straight line, it tends to die out on an anny. Overall, I think the rest are fairly neutral.
PMantle1
Eagle Member
I forgot about the Unlace. I could not throw it at all. This one may have been on the flippy side of flippy.
PMantle1
Eagle Member
I have seen a friend of mine throw a Trak a lot farther than i ever thought that disc could go. He doesn't play a lot of Vibram, but has this idea to build an all Vibram bag for rain.
Some people have said that there's some variation in how Traks of the same mold/plastic fly. I just got a Trak and noticed that the top of the disc does not align up perfectly with the bottom of the disc, making a ridge at least 1/32 an inch on one side of the disc but not on other other.
Will this affect flight performance, make this disc fly differently than other Traks? Should I try to return the disc? I'm anxious to start using it but if I'm not going to truly experience a Trak, I'd rather replace it with one that is more symetrical. Or, are they all like this and it doesn't matter? (Please note from the poor images that it's not flange, the bottom is normal, the top is laterally squashed a bit.)
Will this affect flight performance, make this disc fly differently than other Traks? Should I try to return the disc? I'm anxious to start using it but if I'm not going to truly experience a Trak, I'd rather replace it with one that is more symetrical. Or, are they all like this and it doesn't matter? (Please note from the poor images that it's not flange, the bottom is normal, the top is laterally squashed a bit.)
Stringbean
Birdie Member
I think you should contact Vibram customer service. If it's a quality problem, I am sure they want to know about it.
Are you saying that this disc is defective and should be returned?
I would contact the retailer before contacting vibram customer service. I spent a lot of time talking to a knowledgeable pro who was temporarily filling in for the owner of a terrific disc golf shop. This was the second to last Trak in stock, in a box above the two walls of shelved discs and I can't expect temp staff to know the intimate details of each of 40k+ discs like the owner. I expect the merchant would say it's one of those things that you have to make a decision about and go with .. that some people might not have any problem with it and others might ... and other's might waffle. Waffling's my biggest concern ... I'd be happy with what I have if other people had Traks similar to those in the pictures above and found they didn't fly any noticeably different from other Traks.
I've noticed some features of a disc make a big difference and others don't ... I don't want to bother my merchant or vibram if it's not an issue. In the absence of any other information, the fact that I'm worried about it weighs in favor of returning it.
I would contact the retailer before contacting vibram customer service. I spent a lot of time talking to a knowledgeable pro who was temporarily filling in for the owner of a terrific disc golf shop. This was the second to last Trak in stock, in a box above the two walls of shelved discs and I can't expect temp staff to know the intimate details of each of 40k+ discs like the owner. I expect the merchant would say it's one of those things that you have to make a decision about and go with .. that some people might not have any problem with it and others might ... and other's might waffle. Waffling's my biggest concern ... I'd be happy with what I have if other people had Traks similar to those in the pictures above and found they didn't fly any noticeably different from other Traks.
I've noticed some features of a disc make a big difference and others don't ... I don't want to bother my merchant or vibram if it's not an issue. In the absence of any other information, the fact that I'm worried about it weighs in favor of returning it.
Loony, I think the primary reason the guys are telling you to contact Vibram is because it might be a production error that they're not aware of. Customers notifying manufacturers of defects like that can actually go a long ways to preventing the occurrence of the defect in future runs. Also, Steve Dodge takes quality very seriously, and he would probably exchange it for you if you cared to.
