onemilemore
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It's really the comic sans that kills this. Give it a nice Arial or Times New Roman and Gateway is all over it.
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What won't Gateway Stamp
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It's really the comic sans that kills this. Give it a nice Arial or Times New Roman and Gateway is all over it.
I appreciate these examples, and given the pattern that they portray I understand the general dislike that some have for Gateway. Without that context it seemed like garden variety internet hating. Providing that background helped me better understand your point, and I'm certainly sorry that you have personally had your property used in ways you don't agree with.
treehorn
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Really... And Jerry dying had nothing to do with there demise.. The Dead were almost always the top grossing touring band every year and made boatloads of cash I guess they just didn't give a crap as they were already making millions.
Preach it.
Well, here's a legit question. I've been interested in possibly getting the old Marvel, Iron Fist, Dragon logo on a disc. I can't dye, and would pay someone to do it.
Is there any way to have such a disc made totally legally, outside of going to Marvel, who would probably never reply to such a small request anyway? And I'm not just thinking Marvel here. It could be any logo or art that's the property of a big company.
And being in a totally different situation than Zam, I would love it if someone wanted to use something off of my old band's CD, Phantasm, "From the Attic." Of course, if someone started to make money off of it, then the thrill would probably fade into anger pretty quickly. And, yes, we did submit a trademark request to use Phantasm as the band name.
Is there any way to have such a disc made totally legally, outside of going to Marvel, who would probably never reply to such a small request anyway? And I'm not just thinking Marvel here. It could be any logo or art that's the property of a big company.
And being in a totally different situation than Zam, I would love it if someone wanted to use something off of my old band's CD, Phantasm, "From the Attic." Of course, if someone started to make money off of it, then the thrill would probably fade into anger pretty quickly. And, yes, we did submit a trademark request to use Phantasm as the band name.
Mulligan
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Jerry was also making more money of of his likeness per year than music royalties, too, so I guess he eventually got on board with controlling at least a portion of his IP.
Working in the media industry has only strengthened my belief in IP rights.
Our Designers are passionate about their work and should have protection for it.
Certain people will never understand the idea, of protecting ideas and creations.
They are usually the people who work mind-numbing jobs and can't appreciate creativity.
Our Designers are passionate about their work and should have protection for it.
Certain people will never understand the idea, of protecting ideas and creations.
They are usually the people who work mind-numbing jobs and can't appreciate creativity.
MichaelWebster
Par Member
Not necessarily. I teach studio art at the college level and far more people in music and visual art are skeptical or outright hostile to current expansion of IP laws. It has grown to the point where big corporations can force smaller companies or artists to abandon new ideas because they build off of previous ideas, or incorporate previous ideas to make new/more complex things. Since these are smaller companies or individuals that get sued, they can't fight the large corporations. The recent trend in IP laws is to sue if there is any resemblance at all. Also, many people are skeptical of the application of IP laws to living organisms/healthcare/education and other areas where sharing information for the common good has been the norm. I think IP laws are necessary for when smaller companies or artists work is appropriated, but they can also be used as a bullying tool if you have enough money. Even if you have a legitimately original idea/product/artwork, you can be forced off of your idea because of the cost of a lawsuit.
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Improbably
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Gateway will stamp a mushroom, but they won't stamp my mushroom!
Historically making any kind of real money off of music or art is a drop of water in the ocean. If you can make money off your IP then good for you but in the long view it's not conventional, far from it. Enjoy it while it lasts because you're the extraordinary beneficiary of being born in the right place at the right time.
THUGNIFICENT763
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Hahaha perhaps you should "mushroom stamp" them until they change their minds...
@iDiscGolf
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suprised I'm saying this, but zamson is winning here
I seem to remember seeing some Wizards with Star Wars themed stamps recently. I asked a friend of mine who has been a graphic artist for over 20 years what the lawyers from Disney who took one cases like this were like. His only response was, "scary, very very scary."
To answer a photo that was posted earlier, "who gives a ____?" Well, I certainly don't but I'm going to be Gateway will when the cease and desist letters start raining in. Say, I wonder, how many have they received thus far? I'm going to bet at least one since that Star Wars run was mighty short.
-Dave
To answer a photo that was posted earlier, "who gives a ____?" Well, I certainly don't but I'm going to be Gateway will when the cease and desist letters start raining in. Say, I wonder, how many have they received thus far? I'm going to bet at least one since that Star Wars run was mighty short.
-Dave
slacker_sport
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I believe there was a college DG course fundraiser Wizard run locally that was pulled from sale postings because the designs "borrowed" from another local company's logo / font. it was a shame to because the rest of the art looked good and might have (at least locally or to alumni) reached out of the disc golf world. some college students learned about IP laws, while the other local company learned that they have appeal in the DG community and have partnered up with their own custom stamps.
personally I won't buy their stamps until they show more support for the sport than making a quick buck off their logo. they also stepped in to block non-profit organization use (and free advertising). well within their rights to protect the brand, but seemed like the perfect example of where the bigger corporate interests could have made a new partner; instead the did the usual ho-hum move to protect their own (previously underground, upstart) corner.
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Church.
Even the "it's big corporations, they won't pay attention" argument falls squarely on deaf ears here. It's on principal. If you're going to premeditatively, intentionally make money on someone else's IP without permission, that's theft.
Well, here's a legit question. I've been interested in possibly getting the old Marvel, Iron Fist, Dragon logo on a disc. I can't dye, and would pay someone to do it.
Is there any way to have such a disc made totally legally, outside of going to Marvel, who would probably never reply to such a small request anyway? And I'm not just thinking Marvel here. It could be any logo or art that's the property of a big company.
And being in a totally different situation than Zam, I would love it if someone wanted to use something off of my old band's CD, Phantasm, "From the Attic." Of course, if someone started to make money off of it, then the thrill would probably fade into anger pretty quickly. And, yes, we did submit a trademark request to use Phantasm as the band name.
If it's personal use, just go for it. The issue at hand is regarding IP and commercial use.
Your posts are losing a lot of cred lately. Wtf?
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