ESP Cyclone - home for wayward gazelle throwers

[Jeronimo]

Don't look at me, I'm just the messenger...

I see a lot of tools do that though, $5.00 or more shipping is them ripping you off on shipping.

 

[rehder]

IMHO the ESP is more stable than a TP-clone, maybe it has to do with the fact that my TP-clones beat in a lot quicker than the ESP. But I definitly think it feels more stable. Which is not a bad thing. I think the ESP clone flies very nice. It will be intersting to see how it will fly after 3-5 months of use

How domey and how new are those TPs? My new domey TP cyclones are just as stable as my ESPs. I suspect as the TPs get seasoned they'll get flippier.

ok finally got around to throwing a new TP against the ESP and it confirmed my first thought. These are very similar, I guess the TP just beats in pretty fast.

 

[Jesse B 707]

IMHO the ESP is more stable than a TP-clone, maybe it has to do with the fact that my TP-clones beat in a lot quicker than the ESP. But I definitly think it feels more stable. Which is not a bad thing. I think the ESP clone flies very nice. It will be intersting to see how it will fly after 3-5 months of use

How domey and how new are those TPs? My new domey TP cyclones are just as stable as my ESPs. I suspect as the TPs get seasoned they'll get flippier.

ok finally got around to throwing a new TP against the ESP and it confirmed my first thought. These are very similar, I guess the TP just beats in pretty fast.

I agree, dont tell Blake though, he's convinced that ESP's are bunk :lol:

 

[banzai7]

IMHO the ESP is more stable than a TP-clone, maybe it has to do with the fact that my TP-clones beat in a lot quicker than the ESP. But I definitly think it feels more stable. Which is not a bad thing. I think the ESP clone flies very nice. It will be intersting to see how it will fly after 3-5 months of use

How domey and how new are those TPs? My new domey TP cyclones are just as stable as my ESPs. I suspect as the TPs get seasoned they'll get flippier.

ok finally got around to throwing a new TP against the ESP and it confirmed my first thought. These are very similar, I guess the TP just beats in pretty fast.

I agree, dont tell Blake though, he's convinced that ESP's are bunk :lol:

Really? Blake usually knows his stuff. I wonder why he thinks that?

 

[HeartlessCynic]

Really? Blake usually knows his stuff. I wonder why he thinks that?

Cause premium plastic is da debbil, Bobby Boucher. :lol:

 

[Aubin1]

just picked one of these up, a lighter (166?) domey ESP... great disc. very controllable and comfortable to throw.

what's the difference between the domey and flat versions?

 

[XCyclone]

IMHO the ESP is more stable than a TP-clone, maybe it has to do with the fact that my TP-clones beat in a lot quicker than the ESP. But I definitly think it feels more stable. Which is not a bad thing. I think the ESP clone flies very nice. It will be intersting to see how it will fly after 3-5 months of use

How domey and how new are those TPs? My new domey TP cyclones are just as stable as my ESPs. I suspect as the TPs get seasoned they'll get flippier.

ok finally got around to throwing a new TP against the ESP and it confirmed my first thought. These are very similar, I guess the TP just beats in pretty fast.

I agree, dont tell Blake though, he's convinced that ESP's are bunk :lol:

Really? Blake usually knows his stuff. I wonder why he thinks that?

I'm not going to put words in anybody's mouth, but I thought he wrote that the ESP's don't fly like the older gen. of cyclones, not that he hated the disc or anything.
Personally, I bought a orange ESP to back up my elite-x, and was surprised at how flat it was. It flew very stable and not at all like the disc it was supposed to back up. I traded it away, and a bit later bought a light green ESP, which had a bit more dome, which flies similar to my elite-x when new, but still not just like it. It's still more stable, but I'm hopeing that'll change with lots of use.

 

[smitcraft]

I just got a new "Blood" red clone in the mail the other day. It is just sitting on the shelf in the basement if anyone is interested.

 

[HeartlessCynic]

It's still more stable, but I'm hopeing that'll change with lots of use.

Yes, they do and it didn't take as long as I expected.

 

[banzai7]

I just got a new "Blood" red clone in the mail the other day. It is just sitting on the shelf in the basement if anyone is interested.

Plastic, weight, etc? PM me.

 

[JHBlader86]

I just got an Elite Z Cyclone in the mail. I noticed the stability is 1.5 instead of 1 on the ESP, so will this hold up better in windier conditions??

 

[Working Stiff]

I just got an Elite Z Cyclone in the mail. I noticed the stability is 1.5 instead of 1 on the ESP, so will this hold up better in windier conditions??

No. The Z Cyclone is more overstable than the ESP but it's no good in the wind. Basically, it's worthless.

 

[Timko]

My ESP has broken in to lose some of it's HSS, but not a lot of it's LSS. I don't consider it to be a bad thing however; those types of lines are why it's in the bag.

 

[Yehosha]

So after all the love for this and the XL, I'm torn between sticking with my Z Avenger SS, or trying out one of these or an XL. What do you guys think?

 

[Anakha]

So after all the love for this and the XL, I'm torn between sticking with my Z Avenger SS, or trying out one of these or an XL. What do you guys think?

The XL would be a better transition from the ASS, the Cyclone isn't in the same category of disc. Choosing between the XL and Cyclone would be a closer decision. I keep both a Avenger SS and a Cyclone in the bag, the Cyclone is my fairway driver and IMO the XL will not compare to throwing the Cyclone because it's(Clone) much more dependable. For instance- Maybe I come to a hole that I would usually throw my Buzzz, but there is a headwind up. I would throw the Cyclone instead, whereas if I threw the XL I'd have to account for much more movement and have less confidence.

 

[Yehosha]

So after all the love for this and the XL, I'm torn between sticking with my Z Avenger SS, or trying out one of these or an XL. What do you guys think?

The XL would be a better transition from the ASS, the Cyclone isn't in the same category of disc. Choosing between the XL and Cyclone would be a closer decision. I keep both a Avenger SS and a Cyclone in the bag, the Cyclone is my fairway driver and IMO the XL will not compare to throwing the Cyclone because it's(Clone) much more dependable. For instance- Maybe I come to a hole that I would usually throw my Buzzz, but there is a headwind up. I would throw the Cyclone instead, whereas if I threw the XL I'd have to account for much more movement and have less confidence.

Hey thanks for the replies here and in the XL thread. I think I'm sold on the Cyclone. Gonna pick up a few ESPs next chance I get.

 

[banzai7]

Anyone thrown both the heavier and lighter ones?

 

[XCyclone]

Anyone thrown both the heavier and lighter ones?

My main fairway driver, hell, my main disc is a 168 elite x cyclone. Good times. Nice turnovers, really really long hyzers. I would assume a 175 would act the same way if you normally throw that weight. The 173 green ESP I own which was origionally going to be my X's backup has kind of grown into my laser-straght stable shot. Lightweight for turnovers, long hyzers, heavy for stable straight shots and tighter hyzers.

I've got a 164g esp that I've never used if anyone's interested...

 

[Jeronimo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/DISCRAFT-CYCLONE-PROFESSIONAL-DISC-GOLF-176-GRAM-PDGA_W0QQitemZ350259906784QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518d1e08e0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

If anyone is interested.

 

[eg37167]

The ESP Cyclone has become my 'go to' disc. I have more confidence in my control on this disc than anything else in my bag now! The only thing that comes close is my Striker.

It has made me think I need to dig out my X Comet and see if my earlier problems were form related. I have read many times a Comet will expose form issues, so it may be a good thing now to work with it again.