notroman
* Ace Member *
That's funny, I prefer my putting putters fresh so I putt with brand new Wizards then cycle them out every spring. The old putters become the new throwers.
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[Gateway] Gateway Wizard
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That's funny, I prefer my putting putters fresh so I putt with brand new Wizards then cycle them out every spring. The old putters become the new throwers.
art_vandelay
Eagle Member
This discussion made me think of something. I have regular stiff glo Wizards and also $$ glo Wizards. I was told the $$ glowed more or something. They don't seem to be the same thing either. I prefer the regular glow stiffie wizards. The $$ (are they calling them super glo?) are good but not the ones I seek out.
playdiscdotgolf
Newbie
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mental indeed
I like and use soft wizards for P&A. I don't like beaded discs as they give me a callus on the fingertip of my index finger. I have the same problems with rocs. I like the smaller diameter, feel, flex and flight of the soft wizards. I have tried warlocks (a great disc) but it seems a bit different and does not have the laser point and shoot of the wizard for me. I have a pink soft wizard (I call bubblicious) and it a great all around disc. I take a soft wizard and rub it on the driveway to rub off the bead, then sand it down smooth an they are perfect. I don't know what it is, probably mental thing.
Bag: 2x soft wizard rubbed down bead, champ diemax TL, Star archon was pulled from bayou (perfect feel)and purchased from used bin and champ tern
I like and use soft wizards for P&A. I don't like beaded discs as they give me a callus on the fingertip of my index finger. I have the same problems with rocs. I like the smaller diameter, feel, flex and flight of the soft wizards. I have tried warlocks (a great disc) but it seems a bit different and does not have the laser point and shoot of the wizard for me. I have a pink soft wizard (I call bubblicious) and it a great all around disc. I take a soft wizard and rub it on the driveway to rub off the bead, then sand it down smooth an they are perfect. I don't know what it is, probably mental thing.
Bag: 2x soft wizard rubbed down bead, champ diemax TL, Star archon was pulled from bayou (perfect feel)and purchased from used bin and champ tern
BuzzzChief
Double Eagle Member
Instead of rubbing off the bead you could just buy a Voodoo.
notroman
* Ace Member *
Gateway uses the same glow additive in all their glow discs. Superglow is just what they call their glow plastic. Just like plastic, not all glow additives are equal. Some batches glow better than others. Overall, Gateway has the brightest glow plastic out of any manufacturer from what I've seen.
Putt for D'oh
Double Eagle Member
My Glow and Super Glow are very different, had just figured it was age difference. I have several very firm fairly hard GLOW from a batch a few years old. I have one of the newer Stamped Super Glow and I would have to look but I think penned GL instead of GLOW if that matters at all. Same disc that seems to be online as $$$ Glow or $$ Glow. Stamp and color look the same.
I wanted it as a replacement my original Glows have all been taco'd to some degree and as they age are not as gripping feeling as I would like yet they are very firm.
On that topic I found 3 mareked $ CH sitting with one Eraser ... All 4 looked almost identical. Not sure what the CH stands for but they feel to the touch like Eraser but are really stiff. I fell in love instantly.
I wanted it as a replacement my original Glows have all been taco'd to some degree and as they age are not as gripping feeling as I would like yet they are very firm.
On that topic I found 3 mareked $ CH sitting with one Eraser ... All 4 looked almost identical. Not sure what the CH stands for but they feel to the touch like Eraser but are really stiff. I fell in love instantly.
art_vandelay
Eagle Member
It isn't even about the fact that they glow in the dark. In my experience, the glow wizards are just a tick more overstable than most other Wizards I've thrown. It's not a lot but it turns out to be just what I need off the tee especially. Nice and stiff but still grippy enough.
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BuzzzChief
Double Eagle Member
CH = "Chalky"
Grippenripp
* Ace Member *
The PW is the most OS of them all outside of premium.
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
I hear a warm soapy bath can restore grip. It worked on my old OG SSS a few times before I moved to firmer blends.
art_vandelay
Eagle Member
That was not true with the couple of pure whites I have. Still great fliers but I still like the stiff regular glows the best as far as beefiness. I think a wizard is a wizard most of the time but there are some subtle differences between plastics. I'd buy more PWs if I thought they were as OS as I want because they feel wonderful in hand.
Grippenripp
* Ace Member *
Maybe you need a bigger sample size. I am able to get my PWs out to 260'-270 on the max side. Stable with a smidge of them the whole flight. I wouldn't argue the stability of super glow being about equivalent but at that point I think we'd be splitting hairs with all the possible variables. This insight was based solely on own experiences and may vary depending on a lot of things I'm sure.
SpikeHyzer
* Ace Member *
Currently, I'd agree with you that the PW's have the most fade for a non-premium wizard. However, it varies from run to run. All of the different tactile feels have had varying degrees of stability over the years. A few years back there was a run of SS that were just about Rhyno overstable in flight.
riltim
Eagle Member
How is the profile on the PW wizards? I had some fossil wizards that were low profile/shoulder. They were glideless and fairly straight. Not what I'm looking for in a putting putter or a thrower.
Audible Vibration
Birdie Member
The PW's also have that low profile, even slightly lower based on the 1 PW and 1 fossil I owned. AFAIK, the old fossil wizards are the same plastic as the PW's. I agree the PW is somewhat glideless, but I felt the PW was decently more OS than the fossil. But like someone said above, some runs are straighter than others.
Grippenripp
* Ace Member *
IME (I currently have 5 PWs in the bag and a few more in the yard) PWs are high shouldered and board flat (some are kind of puddly and they all puddle when you beat them in) and very consistent in those characteristics. As for stability I would say they're stable to slightly OS. All of mine glide just fine, more of a driving glide than a S, SS, SSS but not as driverish as my Scale.
PWs, the actual stiff white ones, are high shouldered but flat and they glide nicely.
BuzzzChief
Double Eagle Member
I ordered a couple of the firm Nikko signature discs that just released last week. The SS one that I got a few weeks ago is growing on me. It's got a noticeably thinner flight plate. Could become my main putter at some point. I'm hoping the firms are more of a drop-in replacement for my old Mediums.
Not as floaty on drives as some of my other Wizards, but fast with good stability. Sneaky long.
Not as floaty on drives as some of my other Wizards, but fast with good stability. Sneaky long.
Papertrains
Newbie
The new run of Proto blend Nikko sigs feel better in the firmer blend. Ordered a pair of Eraser blurple and SB purple, the SB were marked ER(I assume eraser) is that normal? Has the SSS Nikkos and felt the plastic made the thin flight plate feel too soft; while the ER version made the flight plate firm with some give, think this blend hit the money spot.
