dashiellx
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The Official Prodigy Website Security Thread
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inourdr
Birdie Member
^^^ I disagree. When I buy a disc and it says PDGA Approved on it then I assume it's legal. You don't see people buying golf balls and checking them do you?
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
No. But then the Rules of Golf don't have a rule about overweight balls being illegal either.
dehaas
* Ace Member *
pdga approved just means that the mold passed pdga approval. the individual disc itself still has to fall within legal specifications.
CaptainAnhyzer
* Ace Member *
Ball manufacturers go to great lengths to ensure the product on the shelf is 100% legal.
And the req'd specs on a golf ball are just as detailed as disc specs.
They don't, are you sure there isnt a weight min and max? They have a rule about ball size and ball compression and we aren't taking micrometers to them or testing them on a press. Remember the ball that came out a 10 or so years ago that was supposed to be the farthest golfball ever? It was slightly smaller, not PGA approved. Like our ninja disc.
CaptainAnhyzer
* Ace Member *
This.
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
The way golf balls are tested for weight and shape is 24 at a time. Even if up to 3 fail, that ball model still passes that test and gets to be added to the USGA list of conforming balls for one year. So it's possible when you buy a dozen balls, one or two might be overweight. But they are legal to use. A single overweight ball is not illegal and that's why balls soaking in a pond can still be legal even if they pick up weight. Consider that there's only one max weight for a golf ball compared with all of the max weight specs for discs of different sizes. Plus how many golfers are using the same ball after even three months of regular play? Discs are really a hybrid of balls and clubs in golf. So how things are handled with the specs has to be done differently.
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Look at the first ball, this is the one that I remembered... both too small AND too heavy.
http://www.golf-tips-for-regular-guys.com/illegal-golf-balls.html
http://www.golf-tips-for-regular-guys.com/illegal-golf-balls.html
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
I'd dare say that the standards for a club's legality is far greater than a ball's.
biscoe
* Ace Member *
takes actual power to "govern" anything...
I think people are taking this whole thing to the extreme. Take your bag and star weighing every disc. Ive been selling a lot of disc lately and weighing them. I havent found a company yet that is right on the money and all of them seem to be on the high side by a considerable amount. Especially Innova and Discraft.
Then lets say I weigh them and its deemed illegal and someone pulls out another scale that weighs it as legal. Then what?
All scales have some variance as will all discs especailly when weighing in grams.
Will we get to a point where all TD's will be required to buy quality $10,000 dollar scales that are as precise as possible.
I just had a guy ask me about 10 questions in regard to the weight of these, wanting something that doesnt exist. the perfectly weighed disc.
End rant
Oh ya I have some of these obese discs for sale! $22 shipped or 43 for a pair.
www.plasticaddicts.storenvy.com
Then lets say I weigh them and its deemed illegal and someone pulls out another scale that weighs it as legal. Then what?
All scales have some variance as will all discs especailly when weighing in grams.
Will we get to a point where all TD's will be required to buy quality $10,000 dollar scales that are as precise as possible.
I just had a guy ask me about 10 questions in regard to the weight of these, wanting something that doesnt exist. the perfectly weighed disc.
End rant
Oh ya I have some of these obese discs for sale! $22 shipped or 43 for a pair.
www.plasticaddicts.storenvy.com
bhadella
* Ace Member *
So is anyone going to try to get a proper weight disc from Prodigy?
just weighed two Roc3s
marked 176 = 175.632
Marked 180 = 178.6
marked 176 = 175.632
Marked 180 = 178.6
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
They managed to poo poo on Aerobie and Quest's parades, but I understand what you're saying. There is power in this sport, but it's not within the PDGA.
**Aluminum Foil Hat alert**
I'm waiting for the day Innova's market share dwindles to the point where they make the PDGA revoke everyone else's approval.
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
All scales can be acceptable if you also have an official weight for calibration. A roll of quarters weighs 226.8 grams in a pinch.
is that with the roll sleeve?
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
Is that 40 quarters loose, in a paper wrap, or in a plastic wrap?
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
No wrap. A current (not older silver) quarter weighs 5.67g x 40 = 226.8g (If you find a silver one, keep it)
30 quarters = 170.1g and 20 would be 113.4g. Any of these would be good enough as a calibration method. One nickel weighs 5.0g but it's usually harder to come up with 10 nickels to even get to 50g.
Will we see TDs scouting where the Laundromats are near the course to get quarters?
30 quarters = 170.1g and 20 would be 113.4g. Any of these would be good enough as a calibration method. One nickel weighs 5.0g but it's usually harder to come up with 10 nickels to even get to 50g.
Will we see TDs scouting where the Laundromats are near the course to get quarters?
