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[Innova] The Groove is a perfect disc

Ted Bratton

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As I gain experience discs have interested and mystified me less, and less, and less. A couple years ago I finally realized that discs don't possess inexplicable amounts of turn, fade, glide, or speed. Naturally I've realized that no disc is actually "better" or "worse" than any other. As my tastes change some discs are just too understable or overstable for my tastes but that is far and away the most important factor of disc quality for me...some discs (thinking of this particular dx beast I used to own at the moment...) are just -way- too understable lol. But, of course, I am very selective about which discs have gone in my bag according to flight, feel, weight, price, durability, look, and even brand. We have the opportunity to be with the immense amount of products out there. The vast majority of discs ever produced that are still around have an amount of speed and stability that I am totally alright with. Combine that with my preference to add and subtract from my bag as little as possible and I am forced to be -extremely- selective.

When the game was new and I was not disillusioned qualities like reputation played a huge role in which discs I prioritized to spend my money on. As such, I have never bought a groove or honestly even considered choosing it to join the elite in my bag. Why is this? It just so happens that I've thrown a lot of champion grooves and every one has flown spectacularly well. They all flew really far. Most were straight flying, some were pretty understable, some were really nice long hyzer discs. They all had different amounts of wear, the mold obviously isn't nearly as inconsistent as I have heard it used to be. All felt great and obviously champ plastic is extremely durable. It's a mold that when new mimics identically any typical 2.5cm wide driver that is too overstable for most players when fresh (i.e. boss) that is worn to some degree, which is very desirable in the same way that any disc that flies straighter when new is. And as most of us see regularly, all of them were practically being given away because of their reputation. Now obviously just as the vast majority of you, I have not chosen this disc for a number of reasons, 95% of which are superficial, but it's interesting to think about. If you enjoy throwing discs a long way as I do (long for me is between 400-500 these days), try out that groove a few times. It will immediately change your view of the disc and every other disc you have questioned. If not, it's probably just you.
 
I found an unmarked fly-dye Groove a month or so ago on the course. Knowing the Groove's reputation, I just had to do a one disc round with it after I finished my "real" round. I was actually impressed with the disc. Consistently OS but actually pretty long. It seemed to get it's distance on speed alone, it flew fast and didn't seem to glide much, but got out there well. And the lack of glide meant it held up in a headwind.

Too fast for me and already got the shots it was good for covered in my bag, but I was pleasantly surprised by it.
 
if latitude made an exact copy of the groove people would go ape**** and clear the shelves. they already have a disc that kind of resembles the groove if i remember correctly.
 
I just threw up in my mouth a little...my groove is used for shooting practice. This disc is as bad as everyone says. But then again, there are still people throwing their aerobie epic and loving it. So to each their own...if you like it, then by all means throw it, and I hope the best round to you. But, in saying that, I will never recommend this disc to a player. Lol.
 
I have actually thrown a Groove quite a bit and the conclusion that I've drawn is as it beats in the groove on the rim becomes more temperamental and less dependable.

It was given to me by a friend and was my only driver for the first several months I played, it's not as terrible as everyone says but the thing is you could easily do better.

I don't think it's any worse than the Dominator or the Archon though. They are all just hard for me to use.
 
Good for you ted! Stand by your disc! I dig my starfire for hyzer flip tunnel shots and it's money but nobody likes those either. It's all in what you get used to! You're correct though if lat 64 or dynamic came out with a groove replica it would be sold out everywhere.
 
if latitude made an exact copy of the groove people would go ape**** and clear the shelves. they already have a disc that kind of resembles the groove if i remember correctly.

I get the feeling the Missilen is that disc.
 
Good for you ted! Stand by your disc! I dig my starfire for hyzer flip tunnel shots and it's money but nobody likes those either. It's all in what you get used to! You're correct though if lat 64 or dynamic came out with a groove replica it would be sold out everywhere.
That's funny. In most places the Groove sells just fine. Lat 64 has a niche market, but high-speed Innova discs sell everywhere. DGCR is not a very good indicator of what sells.
 
The issue with the Groove is not that you can't take one and find a use for it. The issue is that some Grooves are overstable, some are flippy, some have glide, some drop like a brick, etc. That's not terribly uncommon, but in most discs that are inconsistent you can find a tell; the domey ones suck or the flat ones suck or the ones with the flatter wing fly less stable or look at the PLH...SOMETHING gives you a clue as to what the disc is going to fly like to help a player with some experience find the one that will fit his needs. The Groove doesn't. Two discs that look identical will fly differently. You just have to buy one and hope it's going to fly the way you want it to. Nobody wants to do that. It's that "every one is a unique snowflake of suck" quality that people hate.

If you have one that you like, or you like buying discs that you have no way of knowing how they will fly, the Groove is a fine disc. I'm just not going to throw my money away like that when there are other discs that I can buy and I do know what they will fly like.
 
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Yeah I cant get my Groove to fly in any way other than breaking hard right and nose planting at high speed into the ground, about 90-100 feet out. I throw rhfh and don't have this issue with any other disc.
 
C'mon, you're not supposed to start troll threads in the middle of summer.
 
if latitude made an exact copy of the groove people would go ape**** and clear the shelves. they already have a disc that kind of resembles the groove if i remember correctly.

Dont own anything right now besides Innova and Lightning, is Lat any good?
 
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