Halcón
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Sure they would care. If they had knowledge of this disc, they'd know that it's not approved by the PDGA, so it's not legal for sanctioned use.
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[MVP] Electron Baseline Plastic Experimental Formulas 1&2
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Sure they would care. If they had knowledge of this disc, they'd know that it's not approved by the PDGA, so it's not legal for sanctioned use.
wreckreation
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Meaning you had to aim more at the basket instead of a bit to the right due to less fade even at 25'? or something else?
Titan037
AKA dgfanatic7
I want to see an anode in this plastic.
gcr_russell
* Ace Member *
That is my exact experience. And like Ive said earlier, this plastic seems to stick to chains much better.
Correct. As I said in the post that you selectively quoted, I was not going to pay $30 for a baseline thrower. Others chose differently, and that is their right. IF I choose to auction my two unthrown Electrons I will not be forcing anyone to spend money on them. People will choose to do so, or not, based on their perception of the value of the item being sold. I'm incredibly grateful to my local store for not marking the price way up on these, but knowing that these were a limited run of 1000 I would have understood if they chose to maximize their profit on them.
Then quit whining about prices...
#supplyanddemand #hashtagsdontworkinaforum
laramiecarlson
Eagle Member
Work can't go quick enough today.
Is there anything I should try with these for review?
Is there anything I should try with these for review?
laramiecarlson
Eagle Member
Word! Yeah, with the baseline plastic I don't see driving these much except to test some stability. (& durablity)
Nope, for once I'm not being a sarcastic @sshole. As Tbird said, Blendon Woods in Columbus has 10' diameter asphalt "greens" and many of the holes also have gravel around the asphalt. Usually it's a premium plastic only type of course, but it was perfect for a torture test.
And the results of that torture test:
I played 18 holes, throwing 3 discs off the tee, 3 approaches, and 3 putts (I had to work on getting to know my new Theory as well).
XF1 continued to be a tree magnet, and as such it is majorly deformed at this point. In addition to being bent out of round, it is showing significant wear on the bottom and some damage to the overmold. This plastic is only slightly more durable than DX, and is probably not something I'd spend the equivalent of "Pro" or "X" money on unless I planned to have it be a pure putter. As far as flight goes, this disc is now a hyzer-flip machine. Blendon doesn't offer any wide open holes, so I'm not sure how the disc flies when thrown flat but it flips up nicely from a hyzer release and has a nice glide to it.
XF2 did not have as many tree hits or long approach shots that hit asphalt, so the fact that it's in much better shape than my XF1 disc probably means very little. However, this is the blend I prefer as far as feel in the hand, and I'm hoping the softness will lead to it being just a little bit more durable than XF1. This disc was still hooking up and dumping hard left at the end of 18 holes, but not quite as hard as it did when it was brand new. It's a very reliable, rangeable disc, and I'm hoping it doesn't break in too much farther.
XF2 is (IMHO) the better of the two formulas. I said it before and I'll say it again, I LOVE this mold! It needs to be produced in Electron and Neutron so that we can enjoy the out of the box flight for a while before the disc breaks in.
This is a fair point. The XF1 is a neutral putter at this point, and the XF2 is more like a Pig or VP in that you need to putt with some speed in order to keep it from falling off left before it reaches the basket. Both formulas grabbed the chains nicely, even on the cold windy day I tested the disc.
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tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
Winton Woods is the closest course to my house, and it's in the worst shape of all the Steady Ed courses in the area. It's where I do my torture testing too. If the firm blend is that fragile, it may take the title of least durable from the 350S PA3.
nolangherity
Banned
wow excellent review puckstop... where is thinair when you need him?
hold on let me log out quick brb
onemilemore
* Ace Member *
Can you post some more photos of how they're looking?
brutalbrutus
* Ace Member *
banned I think.
bfowler
Double Eagle Member
I got my first two baseline putters in the mail. I pre-ordered these and have another set on the way I found for sale on black friday. So, I'm not throwing these until I get the 2nd set. Then I'll decide which will be my wall hangers and which will go in my bag.
I can already say that these might be the best feeling, most tasty feeling plastic I've every felt. It is very much like Gateway's putters in soft or super soft with a little bit of Vibram.
XP1 - Mine is white. 164 Firmness of a soft wizard. Almost has a slicker tacky feeling than the XP2. It has flex in the faceplate but you can feel that tightness kinda like a drum top feeling. Very Envy like feeling in the hand but I can't tell you had much difference (better) the plastic makes it feel.
XP2 - Mine is hot pink. 168. People are really going to love this one. I usually like a firm putter this this thing feels so good. Somewhere between SS and SSS Wizard in feel but more grip. It has more tacky but a less slick feeling of the XP1. Much more flex in the faceplate. And the rim is stiff but not hard. Definitely don't want to taco them like you can a soft envy but the faceplate is almost as soft.
MVP has really, really, really outdid themselves with this plastic. I'm not a big putter off the tee guy so I don't know how they'll hold up after a lot of tree hits but for putting I can already tell you I'll be switching.
I can already say that these might be the best feeling, most tasty feeling plastic I've every felt. It is very much like Gateway's putters in soft or super soft with a little bit of Vibram.
XP1 - Mine is white. 164 Firmness of a soft wizard. Almost has a slicker tacky feeling than the XP2. It has flex in the faceplate but you can feel that tightness kinda like a drum top feeling. Very Envy like feeling in the hand but I can't tell you had much difference (better) the plastic makes it feel.
XP2 - Mine is hot pink. 168. People are really going to love this one. I usually like a firm putter this this thing feels so good. Somewhere between SS and SSS Wizard in feel but more grip. It has more tacky but a less slick feeling of the XP1. Much more flex in the faceplate. And the rim is stiff but not hard. Definitely don't want to taco them like you can a soft envy but the faceplate is almost as soft.
MVP has really, really, really outdid themselves with this plastic. I'm not a big putter off the tee guy so I don't know how they'll hold up after a lot of tree hits but for putting I can already tell you I'll be switching.
laramiecarlson
Eagle Member
I just got done tossing these. My two throwers are not the same. My EX1 has some high speed turn to it where I can carry it all the way to the ground or release off of a big hyzer angle to get it to head straight. My EX2 has a bunch of stability & fade to it. It didn't want to flip like the EX1.
Putting-wise I really enjoyed them. The grip was awesome in the cold weather, and they didn't seem to stiffen up too much. Tomorrow night we have putting leagues and I will keep after these new discs and will report again
Putting-wise I really enjoyed them. The grip was awesome in the cold weather, and they didn't seem to stiffen up too much. Tomorrow night we have putting leagues and I will keep after these new discs and will report again
scotnt73
Birdie Member
I have 1 of each and have played 4 rounds with them. I've been putting with an envy and soft envy for the last several months and these immediately replaced them for putting duties. Same feel as an envy but a much straighter flight path when putting but still putts we'll in the wind. The plastic is one of the best putter plastics I have ever felt. With the envy while putting I loved the release but I had to aim about 1 basket to the right to adjust for the fade. With these I just aim center pole and nail it. Love these both as putters.
I haven't thrown them much because they are my preciousness now for putting..lol. But from the few approaches I have thrown they were neutral straight but would hold lines well. I didn't feel like I'd be able to rip on them like I can an envy to get that envy distance. The proton envy will still be my driving/approach putter.
Tldr: I bought these to abuse and make into turnover putters but they putt so well I've decided to take care of them and use as my full time putters and not throw much until production
I haven't thrown them much because they are my preciousness now for putting..lol. But from the few approaches I have thrown they were neutral straight but would hold lines well. I didn't feel like I'd be able to rip on them like I can an envy to get that envy distance. The proton envy will still be my driving/approach putter.
Tldr: I bought these to abuse and make into turnover putters but they putt so well I've decided to take care of them and use as my full time putters and not throw much until production
laramiecarlson
Eagle Member
Profiles of my EX2 (on left) and EX1 (on right)
They don't look too similar.
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