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Thus the "ADGT will provide a produced package" verbiage from the ESPN agreement. ESPN won't send their own people or cameras. ADGT will have to provide (or outsource) the cameras and commentators. In the Allthingsdiscgolf interview, Kilgus mentioned they are searching for a color commentator.ESPN3 isn't super legit--it's nice, but they get broadcasters who can't even properly call a football game. I can't imagine who they're going to get to do this.
"Oo. He's under a tree. He's going to throw something. Oo. Yup. He threw it right at the other trees."
As to JNichols' quote:
I think most people that want to "grow the sport" genuinely want to see that happen. I think the negativity is coming from the fact that that persons/company that are now trying to be the face of growing the sport on a nationally televised network have a worse track record in customer service than Comcast, and are basically the most negatively viewed persons/company in Disc Golf. That recipe, to me, translates into warranted worry over what kind of exposure disc golf gets in their "revolutionary" new platform for growing the sport.
I think we need to pump the brakes on this idea that somehow Salient is going to ruin the growth of disc golf by having it on ESPN THREE. It's ESPN THREE, which is still just online streaming. Plus, it's on a Saturday afternoon in May, when people will be out doing things other than surfing ESPN 3 for their content.
^^Exactly. Only thing to get up in arms about is the ESPN label. But in essence this is the same as any live-streaming done on smashboxx et al.
Nate, plenty of people were negative prior to and after your event, but that didn't stop you, correct?
I was only putting out my view point of why there is already so much Negativity towards this, from most. I am not saying that Kilgus/Salient is going to kill growing the sport. Just trying to say that I can't believe we should expect much from the track record provided. That's all.
While true, I think the biggest result is getting the product in front of ESPN's eyes and (hopefully) showing them that there's an audience. Then the ESPN higher-ups could get excited about it and push for further events. I don't think Smashboxx's work on YouTube will get the same results.
I think we need to pump the brakes on this idea that somehow Salient is going to ruin the growth of disc golf by having it on ESPN THREE. It's ESPN THREE, which is still just online streaming. Plus, it's on a Saturday afternoon in May, when people will be out doing things other than surfing ESPN 3 for their content.
Could the event be a total flop? Of course. But this notion that a flop will set disc golf back is relying too heavily on it being on ESPN. Remember, it's not ESPN proper here. It's still just online.
It's actually on Sunday, and ESPN U is not streaming, it's a real ESPN broadcast channel.
My point still stands. It's on a weekend during the beginning of summer. Not exactly primetime, and still on the lower end of the ESPN spectrum. And ESPN3, which ADGT listed first in their article, is streaming only.
ESPNU is their college outlet, and typically any non-college programming is over-flow from their other networks. I would expect other programming would have priority there, so any promises ESPN might make to put the tournament on ESPNU is couched with all kinds of ifs and buts (e.g. if there's no other games to broadcast, if there's a guarantee of X viewers, etc). Just as an example, my alma mater is a fringey Division I school that will list ESPN3/ESPNU on their schedule for a televised football game, just like Salient is doing, but very very rarely is the game actually aired on ESPNU. Almost always, it is only available on the live streaming ESPN3 outlet. So I'd bet very heavily against this disc golf live coverage actually getting on ESPNU.
It's the tech standards for discs for this tour that are really boggling my mind.. rim widths up to 2.75cm allowed.. and perforations (holes) in the flight plate up to 3 inches (note: why both Metric and American units?!) allowed! I understand the desire to directly utilize ball golf courses (and lengths), but due to the PDGA standards, these kinds of discs don't actually exist (yet?).
It's actually in the spring, and Sunday at 1pm ET for a live golf event is as prime time as it gets (if it truly will be broadcast on ESPN U, which I have my doubts about).
And I am not a fan of Salient at all, my one experience dealing with them was less than positive.
ESPNU is their college outlet, and typically any non-college programming is over-flow from their other networks. I would expect other programming would have priority there, so any promises ESPN might make to put the tournament on ESPNU is couched with all kinds of ifs and buts (e.g. if there's no other games to broadcast, if there's a guarantee of X viewers, etc). Just as an example, my alma mater is a fringey Division I school that will list ESPN3/ESPNU on their schedule for a televised football game, just like Salient is doing, but very very rarely is the game actually aired on ESPNU. Almost always, it is only available on the live streaming ESPN3 outlet. So I'd bet very heavily against this disc golf live coverage actually getting on ESPNU.
It's the tech standards for discs for this tour that are really boggling my mind.. rim widths up to 2.75cm allowed.. and perforations (holes) in the flight plate up to 3 inches (note: why both Metric and American units?!) allowed! I understand the desire to directly utilize ball golf courses (and lengths), but due to the PDGA standards, these kinds of discs don't actually exist (yet?).