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Don't go with the 150 class stuff. The wind out there will just tear her and these discs apart.
She also really likes monarchs...maybe the only person who does, but my wife got one with tourney payout yesterday and likes it so far as well, but that may be better for later on.
A couple of quick questions:
Q1: When we're in the field, I'm throwing her 150g discs back to her area. Most of them seem more overstable than my own high 160's discs. Is that part of being a light-weight disc? Just a figment of my imagination? I suspect the real reason is that I'm not throwing them very hard, since I'm not far away, and thus they never get up to speed. But I'm constantly surprised.
A1: I too have this issue, I think it may have to do more with form, as I have been informed today that lighter discs can really show the flaws in your technique. I'm not sure on that, but talk to volk, she was helping me out with that.
Q2: To what extent do other (new) women player's use a run up or a cross-step? She's tried it a number of times, but in general it doesn't pan out well. So she just stands and throws.
A2: One thing that I have told a couple noobs that seems to work is, instead of an X step, first have her stand almost with her back to the basic and just take a few fluid backwards steps. It is essentially an x step without having to concentrate on footwork.
Q3: The Alex Clark course is known for being short. And that's been great. She can par most of the holes (except 6, 9, 13, and 16), though she usually only gets ~5 pars per round. I'm hesitant to take her to other DFW courses, because the longer distances, and sometimes thicker woods, just seems like it would be more frustrating. Any opinions on this, especially from the women? Is it better to just go to some longer, less forgiving places, even if the score's going to rack up? Or stick to something reasonable and get better and better? As a reference point for those who know the course, the best she's done so far is +14 over par.
A3: I think this all depends on her. If she is willing/wanting to go to other courses do it. Also another great idea is trying to find some other beginners or females to play with you guys, that could go a long way to showing her that pretty much everyone deals with the same issue when the start out.
I think she's been doing great, and I'm exceptionally proud of her. I hope she keeps playing. These kinds of posts are great for other considerations. I wish there was a more clear environment for women leagues. I don't even know if Dallas has one, or whether they'd welcome someone so new to the sport.
Ken
Working on a standing throw with consistency and control will get her farther than worrying about distance and/or cross step. By keeping it in the fairway, she'll start lowering her score and as the confidence builds, the distance will come.She throws about 150' on a good throw, more like 100' on a typical throw. We've watched a number of videos and whatnot. I think the biggest issue for her is that she doesn't have a lot of strength, and doesn't really pull the disc through, but rather just spins with her arm out. That yields a great variability in where the disc goes and doesn't amp up the spin (it's more like a sling).
Her biggest challenge is just throwing straight. She tends to turn the disc over (which gets her significantly more distance and it plays the S), but even so the discs have a lot of variation left-to-right. We go out to a field near our house and throw, and that's been good. So we have room to practice (though the Texas summer is making this harder).
Oh, and playing catch will help her develop her short game, too. Many women whose distance suffers make up for that deficiency by having a killer short game. A bad drive followed by an awesome upshot and solid putting will still get her some pars. Use the catch game to work on putting (by throwing right at your belly button) and shaped shots like hyzers and annys.A couple of quick questions:
Q1: When we're in the field, I'm throwing her 150g discs back to her area. Most of them seem more overstable than my own high 160's discs. Is that part of being a light-weight disc? Just a figment of my imagination? I suspect the real reason is that I'm not throwing them very hard, since I'm not far away, and thus they never get up to speed. But I'm constantly surprised.
Just like their heavier brethren, they need to get up to speed to not fade out - they require less muscle but the same speed and spin. Try actually throwing them for real and see if you can get consistent, appropriate flight paths out of them. You'll find you need more snap with a clean, easy, smooth release to not OAT them.
Q2: To what extent do other (new) women player's use a run up or a cross-step? She's tried it a number of times, but in general it doesn't pan out well. So she just stands and throws.
That's perfect to start. A standing throw allows her to work on the throw mechanics without worrying about her feet, hips, etc. Most mid and top level players use a run-up or cross step just like the guys, but most men learned that through playing sports while many women didn't. As the consistency comes, add just one step at a time.
Q3: The Alex Clark course is known for being short. And that's been great. She can par most of the holes (except 6, 9, 13, and 16), though she usually only gets ~5 pars per round. I'm hesitant to take her to other DFW courses, because the longer distances, and sometimes thicker woods, just seems like it would be more frustrating. Any opinions on this, especially from the women? Is it better to just go to some longer, less forgiving places, even if the score's going to rack up? Or stick to something reasonable and get better and better? As a reference point for those who know the course, the best she's done so far is +14 over par.
Take her to other places! Let her know they're more challenging, but keep things mellow and help her to at least enjoy the change of pace and scenery. It will also give her a chance to develop other throws....have her try scoobers, tommys, thumbers, rollers, etc., just for fun. Spend some time laughing and just playing catch or whatever - keep it stress free and she'll keep coming back.
I think she's been doing great, and I'm exceptionally proud of her. I hope she keeps playing. These kinds of posts are great for other considerations. I wish there was a more clear environment for women leagues. I don't even know if Dallas has one, or whether they'd welcome someone so new to the sport.
Ken