MVP teaches good throwing habits. I threw innova for a year, and couldn't throw good consistently. I was using flaw covering discs because that was all that was around except for one friend who bought an axis online. When I switched to MVP it was horrendous how terrible my throwing and form was but I worked through it, and now I can throw most manufacturer's disc great and as marketed but MVP is the brand that did it for me. I could've gotten the same training from throwing a comet but didn't. I think that is why I like using predominately MVP plastic. If sticking with something because it's the first disc company that forced me to throw well, and as a result become better, but is hated because it's trendy. That just sounds retarded, even for the internets standards. Wow you were an upstart that became successful, WE HATE YOU! Lolz