[Vibram] Vibram Disc Golf Thread (Part II)

[hempies]

You should be able to immediately feel the difference between the two. I will double check all of my glow Ascents, but I thought they were all the newer more overstable mold.

I'm going to assume they are all the same as they feel and look identical. Haven't had a chance to throw the newest one which is the only one I have that has the 1 tooled into the back.

Still wondering if there is a consistent method to determine this other than feel alone (ie. the tooling mark). Maybe the 'new' mold is a few years old and all the newer Ascents are the beefy variety and the 1 tooling is just a new machine and/or a duplicate mold (of the OS variety) to increase production. Hopefully they don't have 2 different molds that are still in production and the less OS one's are simply old stock that are still finding there way out onto the course.

 

[Hlasianguy06]

On the old mold the bottom of the mold isn't as tall as the new, thus giving new molds a higher parting line(like they used a spacer or something), that being said I've still found even higher parting lines among the new "1" tooled mold. Something I noticed the rubber blends changed slightly and it seems around that time the ascent tweak was made. All of the old molds I had, medium or firm, were of a slicker run of rubber (the old stuff) and all my new beefies are 1 tooled and of the newer rubber blend.

 

[roggenb3]

I love Vibram, especially Soles and Traks, definitely my 2 favorite molds. I started off last year putting exclusively with soft Soles, but after playing through some windy rounds ditched them for mediums, and I keep a firm in my bag for putter drives.

Anyways, I figured I would post the 2 dyes I just did on my medium Soles. They are now my 'Butters Putters'. the Trust the Butters one has alot of bleeding on it, and the Chaos one was an experiment - the letters and fire are a blue and black detergent dye - didn't take super well, but hey, I'm no perfectionist (thankfully).

About to start on my firm one - probably gnna do General Disarray.

 

[Uncle Dougie]

Just got my M172 O-Lace from disc golf center the other day to pair up with my Lace and Unlace. I got a few throws in with it that I usually use my firebird for. Snowy conditions and windy and took wind on like a champ. Flies similar to my seasoned star firebird but gives me that extra distance I need. I'm very happy with it even though I only have tossed it a few times.

 

[Hlasianguy06]

1st picink 175 firm tweaked mold?(large number flight ratings) vs 175 glow ascent (large number flight ratings)
2nd pic:yellow medium old mold 17? Ascent(small flight numbers) vs glow ascent
3rd pic:red 174 firm new mold with 1 tooling (small flight numbers) vs yellow medium

 

[Hlasianguy06]

1st pic: pink firm ascent from before vs yellow medium.
2nd pic: pink firm vs red firm

You can see the subtle variations from each of the molds: with the large number newer runs having a slightly different slope to the wing and high parting line, the 1 tooled obex have high parting line with the bottom wing being more similar to old molds with low parting line.

 

[redneckgolfer]

great dyes bro. want to find someone to throw some dyes on my lace and trak. gotta love butters

 

[TalbotTrojan]

HIasianguy, Thanks for those comparison pics.

 

[onemilemore]

This thread gets a little more travel from the Vibram guys, so I'll also ask here: Thinking of picking up an unLace again after passing my other one off to my dad. How are the firms beating in? Are they becoming fliptastic, or holding a sweet spot? If the firms are too flippy I can go medium again, just wanted to check in and see what the consensus was. Thanks.

 

[Hlasianguy06]

all I really do is throw rollers or sky annys doesn't seem to be changing in flight at all. I couldn't imagine it getting any flippier.

 

[roggenb3]

The only Unlace I have is firm. It is by far the flippiest disc I own and its not beat in at all. I mainly use it on shorter drives, never really air it out because it would never come back.

 

[hempies]

HIasianguy, Thanks for those comparison pics.

Seconded

All mine have similar PLH's, wing design, and depth. Stockpiling a few so just checking in. I guess I haven't had one of the old mold style.

1 tooling and small offset/slightly crooked flight #'s must be a second machine and/or die set of the newer more OS mold.

Thanks for the help.
:clap:

 

[Gennataos]

About Ascent mold question, if you hold an old one and a new one, you really will feel it instantly. On the new one, the rim feels much deeper than the old. I really don't care for it, it feels uncomfortable to me.

This thread gets a little more travel from the Vibram guys, so I'll also ask here: Thinking of picking up an unLace again after passing my other one off to my dad. How are the firms beating in? Are they becoming fliptastic, or holding a sweet spot? If the firms are too flippy I can go medium again, just wanted to check in and see what the consensus was. Thanks.

If you're definitely going to get an unLace, get a medium.

 

[Dana]

I feel like my F rolls a little better, but for airshots I prefer the M.

 

[Hlasianguy06]

I feel like my F rolls a little better, but for airshots I prefer the M.

What he said, I bagged a firm for rollers, but my proto medium definitely flew better. I'll still use it for long dogleg right holes but massive turnovers that end right or center will go to a broken in firm lace, at least for me.

 

[TalbotTrojan]

This thread gets a little more travel from the Vibram guys, so I'll also ask here: Thinking of picking up an unLace again after passing my other one off to my dad. How are the firms beating in? Are they becoming fliptastic, or holding a sweet spot? If the firms are too flippy I can go medium again, just wanted to check in and see what the consensus was. Thanks.

I only throw Mediums, but I have learned the fine art of throwing the UnLace with a tail or right to left wind and found awesomeness in a disc. I also throw rollers with my Medium and tend to get the best rolls I have ever gotten. Just because I only throw Medium doesn't mean that the firms aren't great. That being said, I would trust Dana's opinion.

 

[Dana]

I roll with a medium Trak too, I just feel that sometimes you lose a little when the M initially hits the ground? I could be wrong. I definitely plan on testing the M and F unLace against each other during some Memorial practice rounds.

 

[TalbotTrojan]

I roll with a medium Trak too, I just feel that sometimes you lose a little when the M initially hits the ground? I could be wrong. I definitely plan on testing the M and F unLace against each other during some Memorial practice rounds.

I tried the M Trak for rollers but ended up sticking with the Avenger SS. Now that the UnLace is in my bag I took the Avenger SS out of the bag. I tend to not like the feel of the firm as much so I stick to Medium but I do not notice the medium loosing any umph when it hits the ground.

 

[Uncle Dougie]

What does it mean when the flight plate has the speed, fade, box but no numbers. The slots where there should be a number are empty. Disc in question is an Ascent.

thanks

 

[Trizzor]

What does it mean when the flight plate has the speed, fade, box but no numbers. The slots where there should be a number are empty. Disc in question is an Ascent.

thanks

That means the disc is typically a first run or proto version.