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My opinions are a lie, that makes sense. Sounds more like your upset that everyone doesn't agree with you :o Anyways, my local course had only 3 beer cans on it this time, so that's an improvement. I hear the HH is really getting cleaned up so that's encouraging. You guys make some good...

Speaking from a total picture, well rounded, quality property, updated modern championship level design, amenities as well as clean and family friendly experience, etc..etc.. i would rate WI EASILY near the bottom currently. Especially considering many of the best courses at HH aren't entirely...

You don't have to agree with me, i dont push group think, no hyperbole intended. :o Everyone has a different idea of what a course should "measure up" to. Just like my own opinion, these are all opinions of other people: https://www.discgolfscene.com/courses/USA/top-rated (the only one...

You're right, there is some amazing disc golf in Wisconsin that is run well and respectable but no one focuses on the good things. Everyone pays attention drama it seems like :doh: We should be promoting the good and burying the bad. Perceptions of those outside who frequent the forums and see...

wish he would have done videos of himself throwing each one while talking about them

DO NOT start writing bad reviews for Lake Superior View Golf Course in Washburn (where DG course JJ setup), do not hurt their business.. they are probably honest hard working people and dont know exactly what they got themselves into with JJ putting a disc golf course on their property. I know...

Yes. 5 glide rating that can handle some headwind at 450'+ when fresh would be nice, prefer to have wiggle room to break a disc in for that nice destroyer-like flex though. till then the Kong (Zues) will do just fine.

it would have to be an eclipse octane, otherwise Nitro which wont have the distance or glide.. unfortunately theres not a good disc from MVP for this role imo i just got a Kong (aka Zeus) and its working perfectly

i thought it was tweaked a little from the proto run?

my most overstable photon was a flat neutron i think it was an orange one, i have had about 8 photons for reference. your best bet is just to keep buying them and comparing dome/PLH at a shop to make sure you get the higher plh one i ultimately gave up on high speed MVP discs and started...

More test videos.. tutorial: go to youtube, search for "mcbeth fairway" then click filter and under sort by select upload date and you will have all the latest videos with the keywords. (hint: this works for any new release, and if you try it again tonight there may be more new videos!) :hfive...

did you watch the video i posted a couple days ago? its straight to fade they will probably break in nicely.. in between a vulture and predator, closer to vulture but slightly shorter

i take it your Kong is flatter on top?

Discraft is WAY MORE consistent than Innova, did you see the latest video by doth_savek comparing them all side by side? the variation in flight with Kongs was hardly anything compared to the destroyers for example.. go look at the video in the kong thread.

Thank you for doing this, i agree the kong isnt as easy distance as the destroyer but thats not what (or who) it was designed for. for my 470'+ of arm speed the Kong gives a perfect slight flex line thats more reliable than a destroyer, for a competitive player in a tournament (like McBeth)...

yea so i bag 3 throwing envys to cover everything.. 1. original beat in neutron that has s little turn to it and just super straight that i use majority of the time. 2. soft neutron for when i want to crank on it or need it to stick. 3. proton envy that is noticeably more overstable than the...

ME-nHNsTpxQ projected 9/5/0/3

im pretty sure its confirmed 9-10ish speed according to the video unboxing?

I dont understand the ultra beef folks that want a disc that just dies out of the hand.. the envy has 4 glide (which i consider low for this speed) and is perfectly rangeable in every "approach" condition i have ever thrown it, get it in soft neutron for a bit more beef if thats what you want...

because the octane was too flippy and not reliable in wind, the nitro didnt have enough glide or distance, so i tried a Kong and loved it :thmbup: If mvp made a destroyer clone i would try it but im sticking with the Kong for this season