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At first I was doing them like when you whip a towel, kind of jerking my forearm back to get snap. When I tried to incorporate that into a throw, it was useless. So I started playing with angles and positions and timing and stuff to see if I could get some kind of weight shift. I found I could if I kept things close to the body and got my elbow bent out in front of me (like the right pec drill, which I never took the time to try.) After that I started trying to focus the feeling and strengthen in, just by more examination and trial/error, moving my arm in different ways and accelerating at different times, stuff like that. By the end of that, I had a much better feel for what I should be experiencing.
Blake_T said:this is the key. experimentation. trial and error. find what feels right. find what feels stronger. integrate.
it's that process where most people want to cheat.
gretagun said:When I focus on keeping the disc further from my body, it's usually on the reachback, and then I don't focus on anything but feeling the weight shift of the disc. ...I might have been wrapping the disc around my torso on my reachback...
Like people said, being further out on the reachback is not the same as being further out as the disc is coming across your body. Interesting that reaching out further actually makes it easier to get the disc close when it matters. I have found that to be true and it was one of the variables I was experimenting with doing the towel and hammer drills.gretagun said:Once thing that I have noticed, however, is I get better results if I keep the disc further away from my body, which seems to contradict everything I've ever read about technique. When I focus on keeping the disc further from my body, it's usually on the reachback, and then I don't focus on anything but feeling the weight shift of the disc.Blake_T said:this is the key. experimentation. trial and error. find what feels right. find what feels stronger. integrate.
it's that process where most people want to cheat.
Blake_T said:At first I was doing them like when you whip a towel, kind of jerking my forearm back to get snap. When I tried to incorporate that into a throw, it was useless. So I started playing with angles and positions and timing and stuff to see if I could get some kind of weight shift. I found I could if I kept things close to the body and got my elbow bent out in front of me (like the right pec drill, which I never took the time to try.) After that I started trying to focus the feeling and strengthen in, just by more examination and trial/error, moving my arm in different ways and accelerating at different times, stuff like that. By the end of that, I had a much better feel for what I should be experiencing.
this is the key. experimentation. trial and error. find what feels right. find what feels stronger. integrate.
it's that process where most people want to cheat.
emiller3 said:Interesting that reaching out further actually makes it easier to get the disc close when it matters.
If I am throwing a 400' RHBH am I at least half hitting it?
emiller3 said:I really struggled with the backhand drills. At first I was doing them like when you whip a towel, kind of jerking my forearm back to get snap. When I tried to incorporate that into a throw, it was useless.
USAnarchy said:...You dont have to understand the physics to benefit from the results. It's the practice, the effort, and fluid motion put in that gain you the result, not the knowledge.
That is why the "Feel" is such a key part to these techniques. You don't need to know the physics to use them.
garublador said:For those that have either taught people to full hit or have learned to full hit it themselves, do you think it would be easier to concentrate on half hitting and then worrying about full hitting or just trying to full hit it from the beginning? Or, does it just depend on the person?
garublador said:For those that have either taught people to full hit or have learned to full hit it themselves, do you think it would be easier to concentrate on half hitting and then worrying about full hitting or just trying to full hit it from the beginning? Or, does it just depend on the person?
I try not to give advice here, because I think I generally don't know how to fix people's form. I may be wrong here as well, but here's what I did to fix that:josser said:emiller3 said:I really struggled with the backhand drills. At first I was doing them like when you whip a towel, kind of jerking my forearm back to get snap. When I tried to incorporate that into a throw, it was useless.
For drill 6 this is exactly how I've been getting the disc to whip around the fastest. Figuring out the timing and position to get comparable whipping speed without jerking my forearm back is probably going to be my key to really getting this.