lyleoross
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Really? You've never heard a joke about the guy moving his lie? Kicking the ball? Dropping a stroke? Clearly, you don't read Big Nate. That's my latest iteration of the joke. But I've heard them all my life.
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Catrina Allen Prediction Thread
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Really? You've never heard a joke about the guy moving his lie? Kicking the ball? Dropping a stroke? Clearly, you don't read Big Nate. That's my latest iteration of the joke. But I've heard them all my life.
lyleoross
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Yeah, the only reason Arnold Palmer didn't cheat all the time is bc he was nervous that pesky camera would catch him.
Or, maybe the majority of golfers are...honorable? Shocking, I know.
Okay, now you have me laughing in my office. Thanks!
lyleoross
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lyleoross
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Need to relearn posting images.
http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/features/the-game/is-cheating-a-problem-at-golf-clubs-70302
http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/features/the-game/is-cheating-a-problem-at-golf-clubs-70302
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lyleoross
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lyleoross
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NegaSnapples
Par Member
Ah ok, I misinterpreted what you meant. I thought you were saying it's some sort of running joke with disc golfers against golf... Yeah recreational golfers and disc golfers alike don't follow the rules to a T. It isn't a big deal if you aren't in competition. Play with all the mulligans you want!
lyleoross
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This is one of my favorite ones:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...2d5948a40f8_story.html?utm_term=.f680bbb33883
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...2d5948a40f8_story.html?utm_term=.f680bbb33883
lyleoross
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I think you've just started a fine tradition. Every time someone doesn't putt out I'm gonna say, "you know, a ball golfer would have."
lyleoross
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As Arnold Palmer once said, "I have a tip that can take five strokes off anyone's golf game. It's called an eraser." No, Arnie's not encouraging cheating, he's just making a joke, but there's another old saying in golf: Beware the man whose golf pencil has an eraser.
Arnold may not have cheated, but he certainly knew what it was.
Arnold may not have cheated, but he certainly knew what it was.
lyleoross
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This one in Forbes claims it's a rare round...
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welco...yahoo.com/&referrer=https://search.yahoo.com/
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welco...yahoo.com/&referrer=https://search.yahoo.com/
lyleoross
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This one is specifically directed at Gary Player.
https://thesandtrap.com/b/swing_thoughts/he_cheated
https://thesandtrap.com/b/swing_thoughts/he_cheated
I'd be curious to know what really has your back up about this whole thing Lyle.
I don't know that I've ever seen someone post about anything so strongly and frequently here. Me thinks you have a crush on the young lady.
I don't know that I've ever seen someone post about anything so strongly and frequently here. Me thinks you have a crush on the young lady.
lyleoross
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6. Arnold Palmer's First Masters Victory
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This is a case far removed from the circumstances of Juli Inkster.
Palmer arguably benefited from the times he lived in, because this rules upheaval would definitely not swing in his favor today.
ESPN.com's Bob Harig aided the resurfacing of this controversy in his 2008 piece, and it still remains captivating even though it happened over 54 years ago.
At the 1958 Masters Tournament–The King's first major victory–Palmer was paired with Ken Venturi in the final round.
In the heat of Amen Corner, Palmer's tee shot on the par-3 12th hole plugged just over the back of the green.
After consulting his playing partner, Palmer concluded he was entitled to relief. Rules official Arthur Lacey had other ideas and demanded that Palmer play the ball as it lied.
Palmer chopped at the embedded ball and it barely moved. He went on to make a double bogey on the hole.
Then something strange happened.
Dissapointed by the ruling he received, Palmer declared a second ball. He took a drop from where his original tee shot plugged, and got up and down for a par.
The ruling was revisted by officials on the 15th hole, and it went in Palmer's favor.
That par, along with an eagle at No. 13 turned out to be just enough momentum for Palmer to win by one stroke.
3 of 8
This is a case far removed from the circumstances of Juli Inkster.
Palmer arguably benefited from the times he lived in, because this rules upheaval would definitely not swing in his favor today.
ESPN.com's Bob Harig aided the resurfacing of this controversy in his 2008 piece, and it still remains captivating even though it happened over 54 years ago.
At the 1958 Masters Tournament–The King's first major victory–Palmer was paired with Ken Venturi in the final round.
In the heat of Amen Corner, Palmer's tee shot on the par-3 12th hole plugged just over the back of the green.
After consulting his playing partner, Palmer concluded he was entitled to relief. Rules official Arthur Lacey had other ideas and demanded that Palmer play the ball as it lied.
Palmer chopped at the embedded ball and it barely moved. He went on to make a double bogey on the hole.
Then something strange happened.
Dissapointed by the ruling he received, Palmer declared a second ball. He took a drop from where his original tee shot plugged, and got up and down for a par.
The ruling was revisted by officials on the 15th hole, and it went in Palmer's favor.
That par, along with an eagle at No. 13 turned out to be just enough momentum for Palmer to win by one stroke.
lyleoross
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Catrina? Naw. Honestly, I'm curious about the sexism thing. We have a problem with a number of topics in our greater culture. We have made certain things taboo that probably shouldn't be. How do you approach those things and have a profitable discussion (or a fun one) without being offensive? I don't think the the answer is complete avoidance. And I'd hate to think we can't figure out a way.
We've so killed discourse in our country that we can't often have a civil conversation. I'm as prone to this as anyone. It isn't to our benefit IMO.
BTW - thanks for your polite inquiry, even if you think I'm full of it. If we could all be as polite and straight forward we'd be better for it IMO.
lyleoross
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Of course, if you're speaking golf golf, well, I'm a little jaded. I've been in academics, business, and seen a good bit of government. There's a percentage of the population that's a little dishonest, a percentage that's a good bit dishonest, and a percentage that is flat out crooked. The honest portion is maybe 40% (right out my backside, that one was). The notion that any sport or job category is without some larceny strikes me as wrong. People, in general, like to view what they do as "better." I do it, it must be. Typically, what "I" do is no better or worse than what anyone else does. It's kind of like rich folks talking about the poor and middle class as takers, and themselves as the job creaters. BS IMO. So the bolf guys are honorable, more so than the average in the population, struck me as interesting. I will say this. Having a code of conduct does work. I've seen it in play. Having people hold themselves accountible works. When you have an arbiter, there's a tendancy to get around that person. So, as much as I'm having fun here, I think what golf does is smart. I think it's good for their sport, and I think we are wise to emulate that.
Lazerface
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Agree 100%, but I get Matt's point and I think you have expressed agreement Lyle. There is certainly a double standard with what "attitudes" we expect from women and men so I agree on a macro cultural level with the premise and am certainly guilty of having to check my own bias at times. But if I'm wanting to have a good time in a casual round I prefer both my men and women card mates to be smiley and pleasant people, or I wont be playing more rounds with them. If your out there being all serious and game facey during a casual (even semi competitive casual) you wont be back in my group, but to each their own. I also don't surround myself with people who take life too seriously generally speaking.
In a competition I "prefer" the same, but I don't control who I play with, so I'm not going to let a stone facer get me down and certainly wont make assumptions on who they are off the course because I know too many athletes where this is night and day. Some people just get in the zone and stay there and maybe that's all this Cat thing is. I have had rounds with this type before and the minute we hit tourney central and grab a post round beer the guy turns into Gandhi. You just never know.
I prefer silly, but serious in competition. I have good friends I play casual rounds with that are full of jokes, razzing, the whole bit, but when we get carded up during a tourney everything is toned down. Of course it is. It's the nature of competition. I actually have to make more of an effort to really tone it down because I've gotten the impression at times from some of the guys that I'm not taking the competitive round as serious as they would like and I don't want to be "that guy".
As a fan, like Lyle, I tend to root for the more pleasant guys. It seems to me that guys like MJ, Barsby, Simon, Nate, Dollar, etc are likely really cool guys off the course. Nate doing commentary has confirmed that, so I'm a huge fan. However, the same may be true for someone like Cat, Ricky or other guys/girls that appear very serious on the course, but I don't know them personally, so I'll root for those that carry a more casual attitude into competition. I've always done that in every sport. I hate Cam Newton's winey demeanor on the field. I have never rooted for him, but his teammates, journalists, and the people who know him well often jump to his defense and say he is a wonderful guy in the locker room and off the field. The bottom line is these folks are trying to win something and different attitudes work for different folk.
Reniger
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Are we landfilled yet?
