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try a predator for an overstable driver. Those other three discs are probably only so overstable because of speed, predators are designed to be overstable and will be waayyyyy more controllable than those speed 13's.

How does it beat in compared to ESP? Z?

thanks guys, will definitely be experimenting! Now my bigger question is about switching from a stalkers to teebirds. do i need teebirds or will what i have suffice?

Vitals: Years playing/experience: DG 1 year; Ultimate 2 years Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed Throwing Style: RHBH, FH, OH Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Zone: 200/240'; Buzzz: 270/300'; Nuke: 330/360' Optional: Age: 18 Sex: M Injuries/handicaps?: None Other sport...

Years playing/experience: DG 1 year; Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed Throwing Style: RHBH, RHFH, OH Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Zone: 220/260'; Buzzz: 270/300'; Katana: 340/380' Drivers: 167 Z Stalker(good) - main Fairway 172 Z Avenger SS(excellent) - Turnover...

Overstable mid Drone is where its at, or another good overstable approach/mid disc is the zone. And on the nuke subject, The OS will be silly overstable and you wont use it, The SS will be silly understable and roll like your avenger SS, the regular might be a great thing for that extra 40 feet.

My opinion is too many discs. I feel like the Max, firebird and the Cline PD2 do the same thing because they are all mad overstable. Maybe the Wraith and Destroyers too? and as for putters, my preference is 1 mold, maybe 2. and Buzzes, buzzes are always nice lol. hope this helps a lil bit...

Easy to find, if they question your manhood just wait till they lose a disc then rub it in their face

I'm a huge advocate for the Avenger SS for rollers(lighter weights) and turnovers(heavier weights). Especially for Ams like us they work great.

Vitals: Years playing/experience: DG 1 year Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed Throwing Style: RHBH, RHFH, OH Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Zone: 200/240'; Buzzz: 250/280'; Destroyer: 310/350' Drivers: 153 Blizz Champ Destroyer(new) - BH Bomber, sweet FH shots 164 Z...

2 Discraft Z Avenger SS's 164 and 172g Discraft LE Z Drone 177+g Discraft Z Predator 174g

if you're looking for a midrange type i'd say a drone, for longer distance i'd say a predator or if you're looking for super stupid overstable try a flick. all those discs are discraft btw.

Hopefully I can keep this bag without too many changes the rest of the season i think. I don't know if i'm missing anything so any suggestions would be great =). Vitals: Years playing/experience: DG 1 year Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed Throwing Style: RHBH, RHFH, OH Golf...

I'm looking to get into the wonderful world of dyeing. I've seen things that people do with shaving cream marbling. Is the process really just put shaving cream on a plate, throw the dye down in any pattern you want and let it sit for hours? Am i missing something? Any help is appreciated :thmbup:

That XL is 167 broskii lol =)

Years playing/experience: DG 10 months/2 years ultimate Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed Throwing Style: all RH Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Zone 200/240 Buzzz 250/290 King 300/350 Drivers: 175 VIP King (new)- Open field distance, goes too far to keep out of my...

Hey, i'm still relatively new to the scene (playin' about 10 months) so i guess you could say i'm plastic happy but i keep driving farther and farther and some discs i just don't use and some sound good so i try them. Anyway, here's my bag: Years playing/experience: DG 10 months; 2 years of...

Vitals: Years playing/experience: DG 6 months; 1 1/2 years of Ultimate Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed Throwing Style: RHBH, RHFH, OH Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/driver/driver: Putt'r: 150/190'; XL: 230/280; Vulcan: 290/340' Drivers: 171 Star Vulcan (new) - Main Bomber 168...

Years playing/experience: DG 6 months; 1 1/2 years of Ultimate Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed Throwing Style: RHBH, RHFH, OH Golf Distance (avg/max) for mid/driver/driver: Buzzz 230/280 Stalker 260/310 Flick (RHFH) 240/280 Drivers: 166 Innova Star Boss (still stable) - Big hyzers...

Personally i love the drone as an overstable mid. It is really overstable and will take some getting used to, but when you master it, it becomes vital to your game.