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Hmm... No arguments going on in this thread?... No Steve's hole analysis?...
(not that I really understand those graphs anyway)
Personally I thought that hole 4(E) should have been par3 and hole 8(6) should have been a 5. No statistical basis for that, just experience.
For 17(OG16), I wonder if the short pin would play more fairly than the long? It's still a mass of OB, but might be more forgivable and would make the right bail-out zone more useful and reasonable.
Yeah, if there's one thing I'd change it'd be moving that pin a little closer to the tee and still on the slope. Like have it 25 feet back but only like 10 feet to the right of the tree that frames the bottom of the normal pin area. Make it a little less dangerous to get close but still have the need to have absolute control of the disc.
:thmbup: You just about nailed the description of its usual basket position:
I played it again today (anybody know how long they will keep the baskets in tournament setup?) and I still can't figure out how to play tournament 14.
https://youtu.be/HHfjXcFexzk?t=954
Even throwing a controlled putter that gap is so small and so far down there, you've got to be 1000 rated good to get that consistently and not just get lucky. Since 1000 rated players make up a microfraction of disc golfers I'd open that gap up just a bit more.
Also would've thought that the letter basket between tournament 6-7 would've made the cut instead of maybe #6. Throw up some out of bounds, maybe push the basket back right a little with some ob thrown in just for another ace run . . . . 6 is annoying to throw and it wasn't much more fun to watch the grown-ups throw either.
I didn't see anything discussing how/who/why the particular 18 baskets were chosen but they/he/she chose well.
These videos helped me understand the frustration factor and why many people avoid Idlewild. It's hard.
They are supposed to put new tee signs in soon, renumbering the course 1-24. Not sure if that's when they will put the other baskets back in or not. Those guys out there did a TON of work getting that course in shape, so a week or two off would surprise me a bit.
I think if those first two trees on the left weren't there the hole would play much better. Or if they shifted the teepad a couple feet to the right... It's so hard to hit that gap with a backhand from the corner of the teepad.
the only time I 3'd this hole was with a Stratus: hyzered past those trees, flipped up flat, then glided soft left to right down to the base of the big tree near the bottom of the hill on the edge of the creek/wash that runs left to right to the creek in front of the green. lol, I 3'd 14 that same round(first and only time) and still shot around 80.
Im just not seeing how hole 14 is that difficult. It looks like a hole that would be at hidden lake in st augusta mn. Looks challenging but honestly just a respectable flick off the tee should set you up fine for a 3 or 4.
Are you talking about tourney hole 14 or normal hole 14? The normal hole14(tourney15) which I was referring to, is just a bad hole for my game. Its a lot more uphill than it looks on camera. I cant throw a FH that far, that uphill, with any kind of consistency, and I tend to not throw my BH well off that tee either. For me its one of those holes everyone has where you're almost defeated before you even get to it. Its more of a mental thing...
Yup it was 15 for the tourney. Man its rather annoying having to clarify which holes I've been talking about, lol. Been doing it for a week now, and in another couple weeks they're renumbering the entire course after hole 2...:wall:Im just going off the video. Ive never played the course.
Should I be looking at 15 in the video?
Yup it was 15 for the tourney. Man its rather annoying having to clarify which holes I've been talking about, lol. Been doing it for a week now, and in another couple weeks they're renumbering the entire course after hole 2...:wall: