Toboggen, IMO, is THE most overated course in michigan. With that being said, it is also one of the most difficult courses I have ever played but that is not the reason I think it's overblown.
Toboggen is essentially the same shot, with slight variation, over and over. Big, downhill rips that totally punish you with any mistake. The rough is the thickest anywhere. If you land a disc off the fairway at all you stand around a 50% chance of not finding it on a lot of the holes. One time I watched my disc land maybe 10 feet max off the fairway, spotted the exact location it landed, and was unable find my disc,and I found 2 others while looking. the vegetation is so thick, you literally would stand the best chance of finding a disc using a machete, no joke.
There is allmost no technical shots on the entire course, only a few could be considered such and they are a stretch. You NEED a spotter for many of the holes as they are blind, and honrstly on the open ones you really need 2 sets of eyes on your disc.
As was stated before, no pads, ETC but it is a temp course.
With that being said, when toboggen is in, I usually play it once or twice and it's a lot of fun. It's a novelty. I am a firm beliver that if toboggen was permanent it would not be as highly thought off, the fact that is is only in for less than a month give's it a somwhat mythical status.
With cass benton. As far as the pyhysical course is concerned, I think that cass is one of the best courses around anywhere. I learned to play at cass, and I have also noticed that people who come up playing there DO have a good forehand. this is as cass i one of the few courses that literally has every single type of hole, and literally challagnes every shot you have. The course is starting to get pretty opened up from the sheer volume of people that come thorugh there, and vary little maitnance done by the city.
The course is in bad shape, taking care of that course is a lost cause. There is so much trash it's unbelivable. I'm no hater on what people do , but the drinking, blatent smoking, and ass-clownage is out of controll. the quality of the people is disgusting, people will still discs, and you will get thrown into. it's honestly really sad to say, but I try not to play there, and only play in the early mornings when I do.