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I was always under the impression that FASTER discs were good for people who cannot throw hard. Maybe I am wrong.
I understand what an Hyzer Flip is, how it is thrown, and have been working on it myself with Leopards and getting pretty good results.
I don't understand why it works. I would think making the disc flip and work itself flat would use some of its spin/energy, but obviously I don't know much lol.
I guess I should just be happy with "it just does"?
Also, IMHO; its a lot easier to generate power out of a hyzer angle and easier to keep nose down. Sometimes I think that has more to do with it than anything.
You are using the discs turn in its different speeds to lift it, keeping it in the air longer.
So when it is like this / its turning up away from the ground to go to this __ which is its cruising position but it just had the split second before when it was at / giving it extra time in the air.
Someone else can probably explain this better than I can.
Yeah, I've noticed this, or thought this also. You've replied to my thread about trying to get more nose down. All that comes from trying to throw flat. If I try to do a hyzer flip, I get much better results, on distance shots at least.
if every shot could be a H-Flip I'd be ok!
You are using the discs turn in its different speeds to lift it, keeping it in the air longer.
So when it is like this / its turning up away from the ground to go to this __ which is its cruising position but it just had the split second before when it was at / giving it extra time in the air.
Someone else can probably explain this better than I can.
Also, IMHO; its a lot easier to generate power out of a hyzer angle and easier to keep nose down. Sometimes I think that has more to do with it than anything.
Yeah, I've noticed this, or thought this also. You've replied to my thread about trying to get more nose down. All that comes from trying to throw flat. If I try to do a hyzer flip, I get much better results, on distance shots at least.
if every shot could be a H-Flip I'd be ok!
so a hyzer flip CAN look like this: / -- \ --/ which just gives you monster distance.
\/\/
I appreciate the length at which this thread has taken off. A lot to digest really. My goal is going to be to practice with my Wolf and Valkyrie to try to get a good form. As suggested by most of you.
I would think it is better to practice this in an open field on a semi-calm wind day, this to really see how the disc is going to move for its entire flight. Rather then getting mixed results based on wind and trying to avoid trees.
I have tried to explain this to folks I play with but they just don't get it. Then they are stunned at the shots I can make with a roadrunner (a disc they would never consider carrying).
No sir!!!!! You want to see the best example I know of, of the Hyzer Flip.
I believe it's Eric McCabe.
Shoot up to about 1:35. You'll see Nikkos "Zip-line" shot, then....THE BEST HYZER FLIP vid that I've found.
(great vid all around)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Qfx3fXIHM
Didn't know how to put the vid up on here so you don't have to go to youtube to view it. Someone help?
If you try to throw that same shot really hard and fast you'll end up turning it over. Starts off -- then turns \ and goes really far to the right...but not as sharply right as the other shot faded left...why? Because the disc WANTS to fade back left, it's the physics of a flying clockwise spinning object.