2014 Texas State Championships NT

[Ripper]

This is the most blatant case of false advertising since my case against "The Never-Ending Story"!

The non stop disc golf tour also stopped pretty quickly.

That damn beast wrecked my adolescence. Scared the crap out of me when I was younger!

 

[OB Four]

damn, i just watched the tourney footage. that wind looked fierce.

 

[SkinnyArms]

And what is it that prodigy players are telling us? Because it certainly is not prodigy >>> innova. That is an assumption. I have not seen any direct quotes saying a certain prodigy disc is better than it's manufacturing counterpart by any prodigy sponsored player. They are merely hyping up their own product. Which is part of business.

 

[DinosaurThunder]

Maybe talking about Will? (http://www.pdga.com/tour/event/16611), but isn't Matt Dollar an Innova Player?

Tied for third Dan mtn man Sisk- awesome name for your PDGA account.

 

[JC17393]

And what is it that prodigy players are telling us? Because it certainly is not prodigy >>> innova. That is an assumption. I have not seen any direct quotes saying a certain prodigy disc is better than it's manufacturing counterpart by any prodigy sponsored player. They are merely hyping up their own product. Which is part of business.

No, they're not saying anything directly about competitor products. But they produce "in the bag" videos, where they state that putter X is in their bag with the implication that putter X is what they use on the course. So if they're playing a big tournament putting with a disc that not only isn't putter X, but is branded with putter X's logo despite not being manufactured by that company, and there's no effort to make it clear that it is not putter X, I could see where a consumer who buys putter X based on seeing that player putt in that tournament has a case to be made for false advertising (it's called bait and switch).

If Prodigy is going to allow its players to throw a mixed bag, that's fine. But be upfront about it. Wiping and re-stamping other manufacturer's discs with a Prodigy logo is one thing if the player isn't claiming publicly that his bag is entirely Prodigy products (though I think it's still sketchy), but since they're now doing that (making public claims to all Prodigy bags), the use of wiped and re-stamped discs should stop, at minimum.

All that said, I don't really think the intent is to advertise falsely. Ricky's doing what he thinks he has to do to win rather than acting in the best interest of his sponsor. Clearly he's trying to be a player first and a product spokesman second...that's Prodigy's issue to deal with if they want to, not us as spectators/consumers.

 

[BennettUA]

anyone want to bet plastic that Uli isnt even on the chase card after tomorrows round? Dude couldnt finish if his life depended on it, too busy buying and selling to noobs on fb

I'll take that bet. What are do you have to put down? I'm a fan of stiff wizards, kc rocs, teebirds, firebirds, destroyers and pd2's.

How does your foot taste?

Why is THIS not the biggest part of this thread?!?!
This is right up there with Roddy White and the Duke bet.
Right up there.

 

[ZAMson]

Ricky proved having 1 Innova disc is better than a bag full of them. Why would Prodigy be mad? All those kids they pay to beat Paul, someone does it now and then, I think they call that a win. If 1 Innova disc helps win, why not? "Sorry Ricky, we'd love you to win, but you shot a video and youtube won't let us go splice in a 'but-sometimes-an-Aviar', sooooo sorry."

Take that opportunity to publicly offer McBeth the chance to switch to Prodigy and keep all the Innova putters he wants. C'mon marketing monkeys, wake up!

Imagine the Prodigy post: "Enjoying a victory dinner at Chili's, by the time we finish let's hope McBeth has projected himself to an even better score based on what others are doing."

 

[AceALot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYMEGqPDBSQ at 1700 you can see it has a prodigy hot stamp. If I owned a company and they took my brand off and put another competitors brand on I would be pissed. It should be a black eye that they would do that and I am in full agreement with McBeth now. If he was using an aviar with the standard Innova stamp that would be very, very different.

yupp

 

[UCF_Knight]

And what is it that prodigy players are telling us? Because it certainly is not prodigy >>> innova. That is an assumption. I have not seen any direct quotes saying a certain prodigy disc is better than it's manufacturing counterpart by any prodigy sponsored player. They are merely hyping up their own product. Which is part of business.

Actually the Prodigy players are saying Prodigy>Innova. In the two minutes of Ricky's in the bag that I watched I heard him say this is flying _____ (insert adjective) than anything I have ever thrown a few times. Knowing that he came from Innova its not hard to figure out what hes saying.

Ironically, I went back and specifically watched the putter section and he didn't really say much about how the PA1's fly, he just said what he uses them for.

I still think everyone on FB and on here cares more about Paul's comment than Ricky, Paul, or anyone at Innova or Prodigy.

 

[DG_Before_Breakfast]

Stirring the Pot a Little = Fun for the Sport.

Go Paul!

 

[RKelly]

With all the players doing in the bag videos and promoting the full line up of Prodgy discs, I don't care if that are allowed to use other brand's discs. I don't want any person telling me that X- brand has the greatest product, then use a product from another. Even worse is disguised as your own. That's just lying to his fans and his brand's customers. It also says he doesn't believe in his own product.

 

[Cgkdisc]

I believe a case can be made it's a 2-throw penalty for not having your disc marked with the original manufacturer's model indication. That includes discs that are tie-dyed. It can easily be fixed just by replacing the original marks, sometimes in the field. But are players leaving the Innova 2-letter ink mark ID on the bottom?

Per 801.02A Discs used in play must meet all of the conditions set forth in the PDGA Technical Standards.

Per Tech Standards section I.(B) As of July 1, 2010, all newly-approved discs must carry the approved model name either engraved in the mold or as part of the disc art, permanent sticker label or by indelible ink marking. The full model name is recommended, but the use of unique abbreviations or codes is acceptable. Such codes must either be identified with the submission for approval, or supplied to the Technical Standards Committee for variants produced after the original approval.

Per 801.02 D A disc that is questioned by another player or an official is illegal unless it is subsequently approved by the Director. AND E. A player who throws an illegal disc during play shall receive two penalty throws, without a warning. A player who repeatedly throws an illegal disc during the round may be subject to disqualification in accordance with Section 3.3 of the PDGA Competition Manual.

 

[Streets]

Why is THIS not the biggest part of this thread?!?!
This is right up there with Roddy White and the Duke bet.
Right up there.

Agreed.

 

[_MTL_]

engraved in the mold

I highly doubt they are removing the engraving in the mold.....

 

[Cgkdisc]

Not all discs have the model engraved.

 

[Apoth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYMEGqPDBSQ at 1700 you can see it has a prodigy hot stamp. If I owned a company and they took my brand off and put another competitors brand on I would be pissed. It should be a black eye that they would do that and I am in full agreement with McBeth now. If he was using an aviar with the standard Innova stamp that would be very, very different.

Doesn't look like a Prodigy stamp to me. Actually, it doesn't look like an Innova stamp either. I'm not sure what it is. Maybe a tourney stamp from somewhere? I'm watching in 1080p and can't make it out at all even with the video paused.

 

[DeadEye]

I believe a case can be made it's a 2-throw penalty for not having your disc marked with the original manufacturer's model indication. That includes discs that are tie-dyed. It can easily be fixed just by replacing the original marks, sometimes in the field. But are players leaving the Innova 2-letter ink mark ID on the bottom?

Per 801.02A Discs used in play must meet all of the conditions set forth in the PDGA Technical Standards.

Per Tech Standards section I.(B) As of July 1, 2010, all newly-approved discs must carry the approved model name either engraved in the mold or as part of the disc art, permanent sticker label or by indelible ink marking. The full model name is recommended, but the use of unique abbreviations or codes is acceptable. Such codes must either be identified with the submission for approval, or supplied to the Technical Standards Committee for variants produced after the original approval.

Per 801.02 D A disc that is questioned by another player or an official is illegal unless it is subsequently approved by the Director. AND E. A player who throws an illegal disc during play shall receive two penalty throws, without a warning. A player who repeatedly throws an illegal disc during the round may be subject to disqualification in accordance with Section 3.3 of the PDGA Competition Manual.

So a disc with a non stock stamp, where the model initials on the bottom have faded off with age, is an illegal disc? Sounds silly to me.

 

[Cgkdisc]

It's potentially illegal if someone calls it. But like I said, just pen the initials back on there. No different than when your unique identifier with Sharpie wears off.

 

[Peterb]

I'm pretty surprised no one else thinks that it is pretty ghetto to have the leaning basket of pisa at an NT. opcorn:

 

[Apoth]

I'm pretty surprised no one else thinks that it is pretty ghetto to have the leaning basket of pisa at an NT. opcorn:

Pshh...all baskets should be leaning at NTs. If you're a pro, it should go in, amiright?